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Attachment Parenting - Too Extreme?

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Here are some links with the basics:

What is API All About? - Attachment Parenting International

Attachment parenting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are so many different theories about the right way to raise your child, and this one has caught my eye for a few different reasons.
I like that they promote breastfeeding, babywearing and co-sleeping (room sharing).
However, there's a lot I find a tad too extreme; like using the breast as basically a pacifier - and feeding on demand rather than scheduling. (once the baby is older)

There's the whole "BabyWise" theory too, which my sister did with her first and had a wonderful sleeper - whereas with her second, did not, and he still cries when being put down for naps.

It's tough.

How did ya'll figure this out??

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I hate labels, most of all.

To the people who don't mind them, I'm probably in the attachment parenting category. I thought it was a little weird before I became a mom, but then it all just came to me that that is how I wanted to treat and rear my child.
I was unable to breastfeed, but I tried ridiculously hard, and I'm very pro-breastfeeding, nonetheless.
 
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Hmm... I don't know too many people personally who truly have it figured out. Even the most confident and capable of parents feel inadequate for the job at times.

I also don't like labels in parenting. I think it's kind of a closed-minded way of thinking to believe there is only ONE way to parent children and it it THIS way. With that in mind, go ahead and read books. Read all kinds. You will probably form some kind of base for whatever parenting philosophy you most agree with. This is good. But, then when your child is born and if you find that the thing you had thought was such a great idea turns out to be not such a great idea, you should have an open mind. Be humble and teachable. No one person has all the answers to parenting. Well, except God, of course. That is good reason to be looking to scripture and prayer for guidance.
 
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I attachment parent. We cosleep, though the kids also have their own toddler bed. Some nights they just need to be with us - we don't fight it. I breastfed long term. Any time they wanted to nurse, they did. I weaned my eldest around Nov-December last year (2 yrs some odd months old), and my youngest weaned at 16 months. It was not my choice, but he wanted to wean, I let him. I'd nursed non stop for 3 whole years.

We babywear, or did, before I got very sick - but I find that babywearing increases the bond with parents, as well as making the babies feel well attached in their early years, and secure in their position in the family. We did not do it all the time, but when they needed to be held and I had other things to do around the house or shopping etc.

I read several books, but I know how I was raised (non-attachment, punitive, Babywise-ish/Dobson-ish/Pearl-ish) and I do NOT want that at all for my children. I just went with my gut and a lot of prayer. I thought some of it was weird before being a parent (cosleeping), but I realised after having a baby for 9 months inside of me, I was not secure having the baby far away. I learned later on the reasons for this, and that we are made to sleep beside our babies to watch for health issues (apnea, security, hunger, etc) and it actually helps a mama well adjust after having a baby.

I read medical articles, and other materials related to parenting as well as relying on what G-d says Himself about how He parents us in the Bible, and how other parents parented their children. IMHO, a lot of the stuff that has come about in the middle and upper classes since the 17-1900s is not really good interventions in the family. They just aren't for us. However, I am thankful for playpens. They keep mommy sane and baby safe when she is unable to carry them.

My 18 month old is only a head shorter than my 3 yr old and just as heavy. I'd be breaking my back to wear him *all* the time when he misbehaves. ;)

I grew up thinking children needed their own rooms and space etc etc, and I'm starting to think that's all well and good, but there was a good thing going with communal houses for all those centuries. We have only a 2bdr house, so our 2nd bedroom is for guests. The children, DH and I prefer it that way. When they are older and express they would like their own bedroom, we will do our best to work something out for them. Until then, they're little and need our help, comfort and supervision.

I don't much like labels, but "attachment parenting" and "Continuum Parenting" do sort of fit us. Well, "Gentle Parenting" tends to work better... but yeah.

You really just have to work with your own child's personality. Personally, both of mine are VERY high needs, so we just went with the flow. Out of the two, my youngest is not as high needs as the oldest MOST of the day (nap time). However, in their waking hours, I am on my toes all day long. It's been that way since day 1. #2 rested more and was relaxed in that sense, but he had to always be with me, DH or my mom or MIL/FIL when he was somewhere. He was ok to be put down, but we had to be within x amount of feet of him to feel secure and safe.

#1 would move and make noise all his waking hours. When he could crawl, that's all that he did. As soon as he walked, he began climbing and running. He has not stopped since. However, he has had a lot of need (and still does) to be held. It's next to impossible to go shopping with two toddler/preschoolers and two strollers, so we did the next best thing - we invested in a ring sling and a couple mei-tais. We take one stroller and a mei tai along when we leave the house. If we leave the strollers due to needing our back of the van storage space - we bring two methods of carry, or DH carries one of the children on his shoulders.

It's just easier than trying to drag a screaming child who insists on being held, or needing massage therapy for all the pain of carrying a 30+ pound child around in arms on your hip or on your shoulders and neck. It's ergonomic, it fits the children well, and it supports their back and neck well. Considering the problems many children here have with hip dysplasia, babywearing/carrying works out well to further develop the hips and back in a safe manner.

I don't "know it all", but I feel pretty confident with our choices. To one of our pediatricians however; I'm "That American" - you know, the one that's über-crunchy and has the "strange parenting choices". :p They might be "strange" to her, but they are pretty normal from what I am hearing from other German parents. :shrug:
 
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I attachment parent. We cosleep, though the kids also have their own toddler bed. Some nights they just need to be with us - we don't fight it. I breastfed long term. Any time they wanted to nurse, they did. I weaned my eldest around Nov-December last year (2 yrs some odd months old), and my youngest weaned at 16 months. It was not my choice, but he wanted to wean, I let him. I'd nursed non stop for 3 whole years.

We babywear, or did, before I got very sick - but I find that babywearing increases the bond with parents, as well as making the babies feel well attached in their early years, and secure in their position in the family. We did not do it all the time, but when they needed to be held and I had other things to do around the house or shopping etc.

I read several books, but I know how I was raised (non-attachment, punitive, Babywise-ish/Dobson-ish/Pearl-ish) and I do NOT want that at all for my children. I just went with my gut and a lot of prayer. I thought some of it was weird before being a parent (cosleeping), but I realised after having a baby for 9 months inside of me, I was not secure having the baby far away. I learned later on the reasons for this, and that we are made to sleep beside our babies to watch for health issues (apnea, security, hunger, etc) and it actually helps a mama well adjust after having a baby.

I read medical articles, and other materials related to parenting as well as relying on what G-d says Himself about how He parents us in the Bible, and how other parents parented their children. IMHO, a lot of the stuff that has come about in the middle and upper classes since the 17-1900s is not really good interventions in the family. They just aren't for us. However, I am thankful for playpens. They keep mommy sane and baby safe when she is unable to carry them.

My 18 month old is only a head shorter than my 3 yr old and just as heavy. I'd be breaking my back to wear him *all* the time when he misbehaves. ;)

I grew up thinking children needed their own rooms and space etc etc, and I'm starting to think that's all well and good, but there was a good thing going with communal houses for all those centuries. We have only a 2bdr house, so our 2nd bedroom is for guests. The children, DH and I prefer it that way. When they are older and express they would like their own bedroom, we will do our best to work something out for them. Until then, they're little and need our help, comfort and supervision.

I don't much like labels, but "attachment parenting" and "Continuum Parenting" do sort of fit us. Well, "Gentle Parenting" tends to work better... but yeah.

You really just have to work with your own child's personality. Personally, both of mine are VERY high needs, so we just went with the flow. Out of the two, my youngest is not as high needs as the oldest MOST of the day (nap time). However, in their waking hours, I am on my toes all day long. It's been that way since day 1. #2 rested more and was relaxed in that sense, but he had to always be with me, DH or my mom or MIL/FIL when he was somewhere. He was ok to be put down, but we had to be within x amount of feet of him to feel secure and safe.

#1 would move and make noise all his waking hours. When he could crawl, that's all that he did. As soon as he walked, he began climbing and running. He has not stopped since. However, he has had a lot of need (and still does) to be held. It's next to impossible to go shopping with two toddler/preschoolers and two strollers, so we did the next best thing - we invested in a ring sling and a couple mei-tais. We take one stroller and a mei tai along when we leave the house. If we leave the strollers due to needing our back of the van storage space - we bring two methods of carry, or DH carries one of the children on his shoulders.

It's just easier than trying to drag a screaming child who insists on being held, or needing massage therapy for all the pain of carrying a 30+ pound child around in arms on your hip or on your shoulders and neck. It's ergonomic, it fits the children well, and it supports their back and neck well. Considering the problems many children here have with hip dysplasia, babywearing/carrying works out well to further develop the hips and back in a safe manner.

I don't "know it all", but I feel pretty confident with our choices. To one of our pediatricians however; I'm "That American" - you know, the one that's über-crunchy and has the "strange parenting choices". :p They might be "strange" to her, but they are pretty normal from what I am hearing from other German parents. :shrug:

Yay! You are just the resource I'm looking for! I hope you don't mind if I pick your brain a bit. :)
I don't really know anyone else who, for lack of better term, attachment parents.
It started when I was researching baby wearing because I'm physically handicapped, and have no fingers on either hand (excluding a small 'thumb' on my right. I have pics on my profile album for the curious. :) )
And while it hasn't slowed me down any - I do everything with both hands.
Meaning I can't be holding baby and just grab something else.
Hence, "baby wearing" - I bought a nice ring sling and also was given one of those fancy "wrap around yourself a million times wraps" so from day 1 our little Pip is going to be in a sling of some sort.
Remi (my dh) and I are planning on having Pip with us in the bedroom (in the bassinet) for at least 3 months.
I've talked to him about the family bed, but he's terrified he'd crush the baby in his sleep...how do you prevent that? Or can you?
We are planning on having our children share bedrooms, not only because we have a small home, but for comfort's sake of the children.
I feel more secure sleeping with my husband, shouldn't a child who is more nervous be able to sleep with her siblings so she feels secure?? It just makes more sense to me.

Did you have a hard time getting your little ones on a sleep schedule? Because the babywise teaches breastfeeding as a pre-cursor to sleep and is supposed to help set the schedule...

I don't have any ideologies I subscribe to; all I know is that I want my baby near me and with all the time I can.
And this 'style' just seems to be making more and more sense to me -though I've been told that its 'extreme'... *shrug*

Also whats a mei-tai??

Peace,
- Niffer
 
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Yay! You are just the resource I'm looking for! I hope you don't mind if I pick your brain a bit. :)
I don't really know anyone else who, for lack of better term, attachment parents.
It started when I was researching baby wearing because I'm physically handicapped, and have no fingers on either hand (excluding a small 'thumb' on my right. I have pics on my profile album for the curious. :) )
And while it hasn't slowed me down any - I do everything with both hands.
Meaning I can't be holding baby and just grab something else.
Hence, "baby wearing" - I bought a nice ring sling and also was given one of those fancy "wrap around yourself a million times wraps" so from day 1 our little Pip is going to be in a sling of some sort.
Remi (my dh) and I are planning on having Pip with us in the bedroom (in the bassinet) for at least 3 months.
I've talked to him about the family bed, but he's terrified he'd crush the baby in his sleep...how do you prevent that? Or can you?
We are planning on having our children share bedrooms, not only because we have a small home, but for comfort's sake of the children.
I feel more secure sleeping with my husband, shouldn't a child who is more nervous be able to sleep with her siblings so she feels secure?? It just makes more sense to me.

Did you have a hard time getting your little ones on a sleep schedule? Because the babywise teaches breastfeeding as a pre-cursor to sleep and is supposed to help set the schedule...

I don't have any ideologies I subscribe to; all I know is that I want my baby near me and with all the time I can.
And this 'style' just seems to be making more and more sense to me -though I've been told that its 'extreme'... *shrug*

Also whats a mei-tai??

Peace,
- Niffer

Babywearing is FABULOUS.... I've been doing it since the beginning. I don't do it constantly all the time like some people do, but several times a week. I used a Moby Wrap at the beginning, and I use a soft structured carrier now, and put him on back.

A mei tai is a soft structured carrier best for when babe is a little older, at least 5 months... I don't know if you'll prefer it over an SSC with all buckles, or if nothing holds you back! But a mei tai will put the baby on your front or your back and then has long straps that you tie around to hold baby in and it on you. One with all buckles (Ergo, Boba, Beco, etc) just have two buckles to snap and no straps to tie...

As far as a sleep schedule goes, it depends SO much on the baby. My little guy hardly ever napped during the day, and didn't sleep long enough at night either. He was in our room either in bed with us (when we didn't put him back in his crib) or in his crib in his room. It was probably a 50/50. When he was about 7-7 1/2 months old, we decided to put him in his own room... within a week he became a CHANGED BABY! He started sleeping through the night on his own for about 12 hours, and then takes about a 4 hour nap in the afternoon. He did it all by himself.
Granted, I wasn't able to nurse, so there could have been a difference if I had. But he's not a very attached kid, he doesn't want to be held or snuggled, he's very very very independent.
As far as good sleep habits go, I recommend the No Cry Sleep Solution. I read the whole thing and was about to dig into doing it when we moved him, and then he solved everything on his own. It was awesome!
And as far as bed sharing... if you want to do it long-term, could you push your bed up to the wall so it's your husband, you, then the baby at the wall? I wasn't thrilled about a baby between us either, but it always worked out for it. But we found out he sleeps so. much. worse. when he's with us, and so do we... so it's not always a win-win. He obviously wants to be on his own!
 
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God bless you if you stick with the Moby wrap. I couldn't deal with it. I ended up buying a more structured baby sling and was pretty content to just buckle him in and go. The Moby is awesome in that it allows for your little one to be SO CLOSE to your body and nicely snuggled in. My little guy took a nap. :) But, the million and 1 wrap-arounds is just way too cumbersome for everyday wear. If you never took it off (perhaps the whole baby-wearing mentality), then it would make sense.
 
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Just out of curiosity-do you think babywearing will actually create a more needy baby or less needy baby?
The reason I ask is that I had my ds by c-section and couldn't carry him alot as a tiny baby. He was always pretty content to be away from me etc. He is now very affectionate towards me, wanting to sit on my knee, have cuddles etc (he's nearly 4).
My dd though I carried around alot-I didn't wear her in a sling, she was so light that I was so comfortable just carrying her in one arm and doing stuff with my other hand. She was alot more clingy-would cry if I left to room, wanted to be picked up all the time etc.
Everything else I did exactly the same with them-we co-slept for around a year with both, I breast-fed both (ds fir 8 months, dd for 18 months) etc.
It always seemed to me that dd was very clingy because I'd made her that way by having her in my arms pretty much all her waking hours.
 
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Just out of curiosity-do you think babywearing will actually create a more needy baby or less needy baby?
The reason I ask is that I had my ds by c-section and couldn't carry him alot as a tiny baby. He was always pretty content to be away from me etc. He is now very affectionate towards me, wanting to sit on my knee, have cuddles etc (he's nearly 4).
My dd though I carried around alot-I didn't wear her in a sling, she was so light that I was so comfortable just carrying her in one arm and doing stuff with my other hand. She was alot more clingy-would cry if I left to room, wanted to be picked up all the time etc.
Everything else I did exactly the same with them-we co-slept for around a year with both, I breast-fed both (ds fir 8 months, dd for 18 months) etc.
It always seemed to me that dd was very clingy because I'd made her that way by having her in my arms pretty much all her waking hours.

I believe the theory is that it creates a less needy baby, because they're more secure that you're "coming back" when you put them down. And that if a baby is crying when you put them down, they need you to hold them most because they're insecure.
Ooor something like that! :D
I haven't done it yet, so I don't know! But I'm afraid I don't really have a choice with babywearing. I just have to.

Peace,
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Yay! You are just the resource I'm looking for! I hope you don't mind if I pick your brain a bit. :)
I don't really know anyone else who, for lack of better term, attachment parents.
It started when I was researching baby wearing because I'm physically handicapped, and have no fingers on either hand (excluding a small 'thumb' on my right. I have pics on my profile album for the curious. :) )
And while it hasn't slowed me down any - I do everything with both hands.
Meaning I can't be holding baby and just grab something else.
Hence, "baby wearing" - I bought a nice ring sling and also was given one of those fancy "wrap around yourself a million times wraps" so from day 1 our little Pip is going to be in a sling of some sort.
Remi (my dh) and I are planning on having Pip with us in the bedroom (in the bassinet) for at least 3 months.
I've talked to him about the family bed, but he's terrified he'd crush the baby in his sleep...how do you prevent that? Or can you?
We are planning on having our children share bedrooms, not only because we have a small home, but for comfort's sake of the children.
I feel more secure sleeping with my husband, shouldn't a child who is more nervous be able to sleep with her siblings so she feels secure?? It just makes more sense to me.

Did you have a hard time getting your little ones on a sleep schedule? Because the babywise teaches breastfeeding as a pre-cursor to sleep and is supposed to help set the schedule...

I don't have any ideologies I subscribe to; all I know is that I want my baby near me and with all the time I can.
And this 'style' just seems to be making more and more sense to me -though I've been told that its 'extreme'... *shrug*

Also whats a mei-tai??

Peace,
- Niffer

Feel free to pick my brain. If you need me, I'm also on Facebook (just send me a PM!) and can answer questions there too.

I find babywearing helped LOADS to have my hands free to do so many things. A Mei-tai is an Asian soft-structured carrier. Example here.
I find that they position the baby so that the small of your back is supported and that weight is evenly distributed. When the kids get to be toddler age, this helps lots!

We do not do any Babywise, Ezzos or anything like that. They are the antithesis to any attachment parenting. If you want breastfeeding to succeed, you feed on demand, not timed. If you want your children to be healthy, you follow their feeding cues, even if that means you are feeding during growth spurts every 30-90 minutes, even in the middle of the night.

While I like your idea of a bassinette in the bedroom, babies grow awfully fast, and you might find something like the arm's reach cosleeper to be of more advantage. This way the baby can sleep with you for the first year, and you can easily roll to their side if something is wrong, or you need to feed. I found this helped so much when I had to have a c-section, and could not get up well on my own for the first couple of months, even with my bed propped up a bit.

Last night my two kids (18 months apart) started out at night (once we moved them) in their own bed. Somewhere around 1 or 2am, the oldest woke with a night terror and came to bed and slept between DH and I. I woke up with him still beside me this morning around 8, but the youngest needed cuddle time in the toddler bed. So I went over there for about 40 minutes of a nap. :blush: He just snuggled and laid back down. We all woke up around the same time and went for breakfast together in the dining room.
We do have naps separately, otherwise we will never have naps. :sorry: They just play forever, and never sleep.


Just out of curiosity-do you think babywearing will actually create a more needy baby or less needy baby?
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Less needy! Mine are high needs, so I find this curbs a lot of the problems we have when they are not in-arms.

I am finding it anchored them squarely with us and my inlaws (well, they never did babywear but insisted on getting a pram/stroller and used that when they had them, or held them in arms). Now being older, they're happy to toddle off in other directions to go play at the park, or in the house. They come back for frequent hugs or to be held once in a while, but it's nothing like it was the first 12 or so months!

With my eldest starting Kindergarten next month, friends and family have expressed concern that he will not take to it like a duck to water, but want me there for most the day. Instead, I found that in our trial runs, he told me "Bye Mama!" and expected me to leave. :sorry: ^_^
I'll keep the phone nearby when he goes, just in case they need to call me for something, but it looks like things will go extremely well. They are very hands-on, and attachment oriented as well, with the goal to teach the 3-5yr set to be a little more independent of elders in the avenue of feeding themselves, fixing their plates, putting away dishes, brushing their teeth, dressing alone and problem solving. Same things that most attachment parents are working towards. :thumbsup:
 
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Feel free to pick my brain. If you need me, I'm also on Facebook (just send me a PM!) and can answer questions there too.

I find babywearing helped LOADS to have my hands free to do so many things. A Mei-tai is an Asian soft-structured carrier. Example here.
I find that they position the baby so that the small of your back is supported and that weight is evenly distributed. When the kids get to be toddler age, this helps lots!

We do not do any Babywise, Ezzos or anything like that. They are the antithesis to any attachment parenting. If you want breastfeeding to succeed, you feed on demand, not timed. If you want your children to be healthy, you follow their feeding cues, even if that means you are feeding during growth spurts every 30-90 minutes, even in the middle of the night.

While I like your idea of a bassinette in the bedroom, babies grow awfully fast, and you might find something like the arm's reach cosleeper to be of more advantage. This way the baby can sleep with you for the first year, and you can easily roll to their side if something is wrong, or you need to feed. I found this helped so much when I had to have a c-section, and could not get up well on my own for the first couple of months, even with my bed propped up a bit.

Last night my two kids (18 months apart) started out at night (once we moved them) in their own bed. Somewhere around 1 or 2am, the oldest woke with a night terror and came to bed and slept between DH and I. I woke up with him still beside me this morning around 8, but the youngest needed cuddle time in the toddler bed. So I went over there for about 40 minutes of a nap. :blush: He just snuggled and laid back down. We all woke up around the same time and went for breakfast together in the dining room.
We do have naps separately, otherwise we will never have naps. :sorry: They just play forever, and never sleep.



Less needy! Mine are high needs, so I find this curbs a lot of the problems we have when they are not in-arms.

I am finding it anchored them squarely with us and my inlaws (well, they never did babywear but insisted on getting a pram/stroller and used that when they had them, or held them in arms). Now being older, they're happy to toddle off in other directions to go play at the park, or in the house. They come back for frequent hugs or to be held once in a while, but it's nothing like it was the first 12 or so months!

With my eldest starting Kindergarten next month, friends and family have expressed concern that he will not take to it like a duck to water, but want me there for most the day. Instead, I found that in our trial runs, he told me "Bye Mama!" and expected me to leave. :sorry: ^_^
I'll keep the phone nearby when he goes, just in case they need to call me for something, but it looks like things will go extremely well. They are very hands-on, and attachment oriented as well, with the goal to teach the 3-5yr set to be a little more independent of elders in the avenue of feeding themselves, fixing their plates, putting away dishes, brushing their teeth, dressing alone and problem solving. Same things that most attachment parents are working towards. :thumbsup:


Looks like my kids are obviously odd then lol (no surprise to me :) ).
The one i carried alot is definitly the one that needs me more and isn't comfortable when I leave the room. And if I'm in the room she has to be right with me.
I'm pretty sure she'll grow out of it so I'm not worried about it at all. I just find it interesting that my experience is so different
 
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My son has been very independent since he was born... He isn't a snuggler, or doesn't really want to be held unless he's tired.... And I babywear a few times a week, I'd say. It's mostly when we go somewhere and I need him contained or just for convenience. So babywearing has DEFINITELY not made him dependent on me at all.
 
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I personally feel that you don't have to be on one side or the other. I used different aspects of babywise, as well as attachment parenting. You take what works, and toss out the rest. The results are pretty clearly visible in my daughter. She's very independent, but knows when to ask for help. She loves to give hugs and kisses, but also enjoys her space. She loves to sleep, but doesn't flip out if she misses a nap. She's structured, but flexible...

Also, having worked in the nursery at my church for well...since forever, I've noticed a trend. It seems that the more clingy children usually belong to stay-at-home moms, while the more independent children spend most of the day in daycare, or with other family members (such as grandparents). Also the needy children are usually firstborn. All of the second children tend to have a "Who are you? Meh, I don't care. When's snack time?" kind of attitude. Given, this isn't always the case, but I've observed this difference many times.
 
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That's very interesting, and I'm sure very likely!

I think I have the exception to most rules child. :) He could care less who is around, just as long as he sees another adult, he's fine. He'll go to anyone, and is pretty well adjusted.

I look forward to see how this next one is. :)
 
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I don't like the term "attachment parenting" because it sounds ridiculous, hippie-ish and weird to me, but going by the book, we fall under that category. DD is fed on demand (if we're starving and cranky, we don't wanna wait until our scheduled time - why should we make her wait?) and we don't let her cry it out. We cosleep for about half of the night each night. However, we let her play on her own and whatnot, and she's becoming pretty good about keeping herself entertained. Basically, we do what it takes to make our lives and her life easier. She's not gonna remember any of it by the time she's 3 years old, so I'm not worried one bit about any impact it's gonna have on her later in life (more clingy, less clingy, more needy etc).

But you need to cater your course of action to your child's personality. BabyWise could work well for one kid, and then be an absolute disaster for the next kid. Kids have more born-in personality than we give them credit for oftentimes, and that's why one baby book or baby philosophy will never have all of the answers.
 
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Here are some links with the basics:

What is API All About? - Attachment Parenting International
However, there's a lot I find a tad too extreme; like using the breast as basically a pacifier - and feeding on demand rather than scheduling. (once the baby is older)
I like feeding on demand,I try to feed a child when there hungry,I didn't get from a book,I'm asked for food before lunch or dinner,I give them food,before it's meal time.Also never had scheduled feeding times,kids have small stomache,so should eat several small snacks all day,so I don't think anything wrong with that.Also I've given kids food,when they wake up in the middle of the night hungry.I do this because in the past,I had strick eating scheduled as a kid,ended up overwieght as a child,so I very easy going when it comes to kids eating.As for the using the nipple as a pacifier,I seen a parent do it,the child never used a real one,when breast feeding was over,so was that.I hope to read it,just saying the the thing that sound extreme to u,arent to me,so the seems interesting.
 
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o_O The more needy a child is, is because they have SAHMs? I've always seen the opposite.


I think it really comes down to personality and how someone parents.

Definitly comes down the the child and parents. I was told my dd cried when I left her in our church crèche because I'm a sahm!!! However when I take her to creches at other chuches she's fine at being left with total strangers. I feel that it's the crèche at fault (especially given that nearly every pre walking baby that is left there cries).
 
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But you need to cater your course of action to your child's personality. BabyWise could work well for one kid, and then be an absolute disaster for the next kid. Kids have more born-in personality than we give them credit for oftentimes, and that's why one baby book or baby philosophy will never have all of the answers.

:thumbsup:This!

I use a little bit of every type of parenting style with my daughter. I never let her lay and cry as a baby (eventho my mother insisted it was best for her), I didn't hold her all the time or babywear either, I did NOT (and NEVER will) co-sleep, I do spank her, I also reward her and use positive reinforcement. She was bottle fed, had I been able to breast feed I wouldn't have let her use me as a pacifier (I don't do pacifiers at all).
 
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