Atonement.

[Byfaithalone1]

How can something be rejected that is not fully comprehended? I think people reject the "God' that they have been shown, or the "gift" as its been defined by various groups but I doubt seriously that if God completely reveals himself to a person and they grasped him and what was offered that they would reject it...

I suppose I was coming at this more from the angle of that which God does and less from the perspective of that which a person does. If I have a winsome God actively pursuing me, am I apt to reject Him? We land in similar places.

BFA

 

[StormyOne]

I suppose I was coming at this more from the angle of that which God does and less from the perspective of that which a person does. If I have a winsome God actively pursuing me, am I apt to reject Him? We land in similar places.

BFA

So then, if God knows that the person he is wooing does not fully understand what the decision entails, it seems unlikely to me that God will penalize that person for making a decision without knowing all the facts.... I find it hard to believe that God would punish eternally someone who didn't understand what was at stake... Likewise I have little faith in most who say they follow God to accurately convey the message they say God has given them.... So must people experience God for themselves, I think so...

 

[Byfaithalone1]

So then, if God knows that the person he is wooing does not fully understand what the decision entails, it seems unlikely to me that God will penalize that person for making a decision without knowing all the facts....

Or at least knowing relevant facts about what is at stake. I suspect that He reveals such relevant facts in His timing.

I find it hard to believe that God would punish eternally someone who didn't understand what was at stake...

I do too.

Likewise I have little faith in most who say they follow God to accurately convey the message they say God has given them.... So must people experience God for themselves, I think so...

I agree that people do a poor job of conveying God. And yet God still reveals Himself to people. I find that comforting.

BFA

 

[Joe67]

Our belief is the Lord's work.

Judg 17:6
6 In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes. KJV

Judg 21:25
25 In those days there was no king in Israel: every man did that which was right in his own eyes. KJV

Prov 21:2
2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts. KJV

There are two events that set behind the witness in Judges 17 and 21.

Man does not know his heart. It is deceitful above all things. Man's heart is hardened through the deceitfulness of comfort and praise.

Joe