Atheists?

[tucker58]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source." Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).

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just love,

tuck

 

[variant]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source." Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).

I don't remember that dictate on my non-believer sign up form.

Why is it the job of non-believers to convince believers of anything?

Does simply existing require that I evangelize all my opinions?

 

[Ar Cosc]

*Pats himself*

Yep, I'm real. I can present myself before whoever I want. And my job is as an engineer. They must have slipped that antivangelism into one of the more obscure bits of the contract

 

[Jade Margery]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

Could you simplify this question? I've read it several times and I still can't figure out exactly what you are asking.

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source." Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).

Your "use" of quotation "marks" is also confusing.

Some atheists think that people who believe in god(s) are slow, or at least self deluded. Some atheists take it upon themselves to spread reason and logic where people would rather be satisfied with faith and myth. But that does not describe all of them, or even most of them; most atheists I've met are quietly nonreligious. Unless you live deep in the bible belt you probably know some atheists without realizing it, and unless you asked them about it directly you would never know. As usual for any group of people (athiests, christians, african americans, muslims, homosexuals, feminists, etc etc etc,) a particularly vocal/visable minority is used to make sweeping generalizations about all of them.

But seriously, what is your question? There are plenty of atheists here who will be happy to answer it.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

I don't think I understand the question. Are you asking if atheists can help theists in life?

Atheists consider any higher source not real.

Only if that "higher source" is explicitly a deity, and even then...

And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source."

No... no, that's not right at all. Where did you get that idea? We don't have to do anything. There's no law that demands we explain to everybody that "there ain't no higher source". Atheists are not defined by a common belief, but by a common disbelief. That's literally all there is to atheism. I don't know why you think we're bound by this geas, but, being an atheist myself, I can assure you we're not.

Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).

With all due respect, it's also a bit hard to understand.

 

[paulypaul123]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

Sorry. I don't understand that sentence.

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

Do we? What is "a higher source"? All atoms on this planet originate from stars, I guess that is a higher source, which I have no problem believing in.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source." Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).?

That's my purpose? Great. At least I know now. Thanks.

just love,

.... and assertions of other people's views.

tuck

 

[Ayersy]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

I don't quite understand what you're getting at, here?

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

That doesn't really apply to all of us. Some atheists still have a spiritual side (Though I find it hard to imagine how that kind of thinking works, but hey, whatever. ), and I would definitely say that not all of us think of all theists as being slow. I know there's obviously alot of smart theists out there, alot of them being a whole lot smarter than I am, just as I know there are alot of dumb atheists.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source." Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).

We don't really have to do anything, it certainly isn't our job to spread atheism, somehow. I admit, I do enjoy opening people's minds with a bit of logic and reason, but that's just me, I like debate, others don't. Alot of atheists are probably happy to just sit there quietly and not bring up the subject.

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just love,

... And hugs?

tuck

Ayersy.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

I'm a reality. Nice to meet you.

I don't pretend to be able to usefully counsel theists any more than theists can rightly claim to be able to usefully counsel me.

Atheists consider [...] "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

I don't recall considering this.

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source."

Really? I don't recall signing up for that job.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[tucker58]

I don't remember that dictate on my non-believer sign up form.

Why is it the job of non-believers to convince believers of anything?

Does simply existing require that I evangelize all my opinions?

Yes there is no such thing as "simply existing" or you would not be on a message board . You would be doing something else .

Love!

tuck

 

[tucker58]

I don't quite understand what you're getting at, here?



That doesn't really apply to all of us. Some atheists still have a spiritual side (Though I find it hard to imagine how that kind of thinking works, but hey, whatever. ), and I would definitely say that not all of us think of all theists as being slow. I know there's obviously alot of smart theists out there, alot of them being a whole lot smarter than I am, just as I know there are alot of dumb atheists.



We don't really have to do anything, it certainly isn't our job to spread atheism, somehow. I admit, I do enjoy opening people's minds with a bit of logic and reason, but that's just me, I like debate, others don't. Alot of atheists are probably happy to just sit there quietly and not bring up the subject.



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... And hugs?


Ayersy.

Ayersy , you are very strange and reality needs more people like you wandering around in it, and that is actually being honest.

just love,

tuck (who is also very strange and probably not needed in reality )

 

[tucker58]

I'm a reality. Nice to meet you.

I don't pretend to be able to usefully counsel theists any more than theists can rightly claim to be able to usefully counsel me.



I don't recall considering this.



Really? I don't recall signing up for that job.


eudaimonia,

Mark

Mark you did not sign up for this job you for some reason have just seemed to have stepped in it .

I love you!

tuck

 

[tucker58]

I don't think I understand the question. Are you asking if atheists can help theists in life?


Only if that "higher source" is explicitly a deity, and even then...


No... no, that's not right at all. Where did you get that idea? We don't have to do anything. There's no law that demands we explain to everybody that "there ain't no higher source". Atheists are not defined by a common belief, but by a common disbelief. That's literally all there is to atheism. I don't know why you think we're bound by this geas, but, being an atheist myself, I can assure you we're not.


With all due respect, it's also a bit hard to understand.

Hi WC and welcome to this topic!

"With all due respect, it's also a bit hard to understand."

I know WC, and we all hate it when that happens.

just tuck, and you are loved!

 

[Tinker Grey]

Hi WC and welcome to this topic!

"With all due respect, it's also a bit hard to understand."

I know WC, and we all hate it when that happens.

just tuck, and you are loved!

This response is not helpful.

How about you explain yourself or address the responses?

 

[variant]

Yes there is no such thing as "simply existing" or you would not be on a message board . You would be doing something else .

The fact remains that I have no desire to talk every believer out of their beliefs.

Talking with people about their beliefs on a board where people come to talk about their beliefs dosen't obligate me to owe an explaination to everyone.

Your argument that I am required to go around explaining to people that their appeals to higher powers have more to do with their own psyche than the objective universe that they live in dosen't follow from any facts that I am aware of.

Your beliefs are your responcability, not mine.

 

[Vatis]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

Yes. I am real. If someone is appealing to a higher source I am still real.

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

Deluded, slow, indoctrinated, emotional, theres a long list from which you may choose .

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source." Or maybe that you are better off not to appeal to It (that part is a bit hard to tell).

Number of theists who tried to convert me:
50, at least
Number of atheists who tried to convert me:
0

 

[Wiccan_Child]

Hi WC and welcome to this topic!

"With all due respect, it's also a bit hard to understand."

I know WC, and we all hate it when that happens.

just tuck, and you are loved!

That doesn't explain anything. Did you even read my post? If you ask atheists a question, that's entirely fair, but it helps if your question actually makes sense. I honestly don't know what it is you're asking us. Can you explain your question more clearly, please?

 

[quatona]

Can Atheists present themselves, in a world reality, as a reality, to anyone whom is attempting to appeal to a higher source to help them with their life?

Here´s just another guy who doesn´t understand this question. Care to reword it for us, please?

Atheists consider any higher source not real. And "those" that do attempt to appeal to any higher source, a bit slow.

Here´s a kind proposal/request for you: If you want a discussion with me (or any of the atheists on this board) - wouldn´t it be a better idea to ask us for our opinions/positions rather than telling us what they are?

The job of all "Atheists" is to explain to everybody, that "there ain't no higher source."

How and when exactly did this job/burdon fall on my shoulders?

 

[tanzanos]

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[Ayersy]

Ayersy , you are very strange and reality needs more people like you wandering around in it, and that is actually being honest.

just love,

tuck (who is also very strange and probably not needed in reality )

Haha, thanks, I actually do take that as a compliment.

Honesty and truth, I do really think are important in life. I can proudly say I don't lie (Well, little things like not being bothered to answer the phone to someone and saying I was in the shower instead... I do those, but they're harmless, haha.), and I always try to be as honest as possible.

This often makes me come off as uncaring and brutal, but it's just the way I am. As long as you're telling the truth, then nobody can criticize you for it.

I wouldn't say reality needs alot more people like me in it, though, the place would be chaotic, to say the least. Haha.

 

[Eudaimonist]

Mark you did not sign up for this job you for some reason have just seemed to have stepped in it .

If I have, I'm lazy at it.

I don't feel any particular commitment to "explain to everybody that there ain't no higher source." This is not a mission in life for me. I'm not trying to spread the Good News of godlessness.

I do often reply to theists who try to convince me that there is a "higher source" why I don't personally believe that, and how I can live my life without that belief, but I'm not in the business of actively promoting godlessness. I'm much more interested in helping to improve comprehension of what I am really like, and to destigmatize atheists in general.


eudaimonia,

Mark