Atheists worship the devil?!

[Foreshadow]

Hello everyone. I have been hearing a some people saying that atheists worship the devil. Does anyone know why people think this? It seems to me that the atheist ideal is not known by a lot of Christians(among other religions). For example atheism is not a collective group of people. For example, some atheists think that Christians are evil, some don't. Some atheists believe that there might be a afterlife some don't. Does anyone see what I am getting at? Atheism as a term should not be used as a religion because it is not. Nor is it a group of people.

P.S happy summer everybody!

 

[ephraimanesti]

Hello everyone. I have been hearing a some people saying that atheists worship the devil. Does anyone know why people think this? It seems to me that the atheist ideal is not known by a lot of Christians(among other religions). For example atheism is not a collective group of people. For example, some atheists think that Christians are evil, some don't. Some atheists believe that there might be a afterlife some don't. Does anyone see what I am getting at? Atheism as a term should not be used as a religion because it is not. Nor is it a group of people.

The one thing that all atheists do have in common, however, is that they worship themselves, and can conceive of nothing greater existing in the universe than their tiny little selves with their tiny little powers trapped in their tiny little egocentric boxes dreaming tiny little hubristic dreams of grandeur.

Quite sad, really. A soul is a terrible thing to waste!

A BOND-SLAVE/FRIEND/BROTHER OF OUR LORD/GOD/SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST,
ephraim

 

[Foreshadow]

The one thing that all atheists do have in common, however, is that they worship themselves, and can conceive of nothing greater existing in the universe than their tiny little selves with their tiny little powers trapped in their tiny little egocentric boxes dreaming tiny little hubristic dreams of grandeur.

Quite sad, really. A soul is a terrible thing to waste!

A BOND-SLAVE/FRIEND/BROTHER OF OUR LORD/GOD/SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST,
ephraim

That is exactly the kind of attitude I am talking about. I can conceive of something greater in the universe. I just think about it in a natural way. For example I think a black hole is something greater in the universe. I am also not egocentric(yes I know what that means) nor do I dream of anything or have any vision for my future. I do not worship my self, because I don't worship anything.
I can not speak for all atheists, which is why I am talking about my self. Your post has proven my point. I don't know you as a person. Nor do I think I ever will. However this is just the type of behavior that I get at school and other places. You generalizing a group that doesn't even exsist. I may have only lived 13 years, but it seems to me that ignorance passes down from generation to generation, and although you seem to be a decent person I think you are just a offspring of another generation to molded your thoughts and ideals.
So in conlusion every single thing you just said is wrong. I do not worship myself. I do not dream of any grandeur. I do concieve of something greater than myself. I simply think it is something natural like a black hole. Atheism is not a collection of minds, but simply a term used to describe anyone who doesnt not believe in A god. You do not believe in Zeus or Thor or countless other Gods from different religions. Therefore you are a atheist. With this simply defination, everyone is a atheist in some form, some people like me just take it one god further. Good day sir.

 

[ephraimanesti]

That is exactly the kind of attitude I am talking about. I can conceive of something greater in the universe. I just think about it in a natural way. For example I think a black hole is something greater in the universe.

MY DEAR FRIEND,

A black hole is a natural--i.e. blind--force of nature and is thus in no way greater than a reasoning human being created in the image and likeness of God.

I am also not egocentric(yes I know what that means) nor do I dream of anything or have any vision for my future. I do not worship my self, because I don't worship anything.

We worship that which we place our faith in--either God or ourselves. Like the old Bob Dylan song rightly--"You got to serve somebody."

I can not speak for all atheists, which is why I am talking about my self. Your post has proven my point. I don't know you as a person. Nor do I think I ever will.

Stranger things have happened.

However this is just the type of behavior that I get at school and other places. You generalizing a group that doesn't even exsist.

Word have definitions which convey meaning--"Christians" believe in Christ; "atheists" believe there is no Higher Power in the Universe than man. The details are just frosting on the cake in both instances.

I may have only lived 13 years, but it seems to me that ignorance passes down from generation to generation, and although you seem to be a decent person I think you are just a offspring of another generation to molded your thoughts and ideals.

Actually, i'm a product of the 60's and for most of my life my "thoughts and ideals" were molded by the trinity worshipped during that period--drugs, sex, and rock-n-roll. God, in his mercy delivered me from my self-destruction and now actively "molds my thoughts and ideals" Himself.

So in conlusion every single thing you just said is wrong.

YO! Now who is making sweeping generalizations?

I do not worship myself. I do not dream of any grandeur. I do concieve of something greater than myself. I simply think it is something natural like a black hole.

If you really believe that a mindless force of nature is greater than you, perhaps you need some self-image/self-esteem assistance from a trained professional--Jesus your brother, for example.

Atheism is not a collection of minds, but simply a term used to describe anyone who doesnt not believe in A god. You do not believe in Zeus or Thor or countless other Gods from different religions. Therefore you are a atheist. With this simply defination, everyone is a atheist in some form, some people like me just take it one god further.

The dictionary defines an "atheist" as: "One who holds to the doctrine that no deities exist."--i.e. any and all. i am a Christian--i believe in God and see Zeus and Thor for what they are. In other words, i am a Theist. (i was really never ever able to accept atheism even in my worst tripped-out-acid-consuming-wine guzzling-weed-smoking-crazy days. It just didn't, and of course, still doesn't, compute.)

Good day sir.

That is cool! Same to ya!

WITH LOVE IN CHRIST,
ephraim

 

[Foreshadow]

MY DEAR FRIEND,

A black hole is a natural--i.e. blind--force of nature and is thus in no way greater than a reasoning human being created in the image and likeness of God.

A blind force can still be greater than a human being simply because it is bigger.

We worship that which we place our faith in--either God or ourselves. Like the old Bob Dylan song rightly--"You got to serve somebody."

I do not place faith in anything. It is possible to not worship anything at all.

Stranger things have happened.

You would be surprised.

Word have definitions which convey meaning--"Christians" believe in Christ; "atheists" believe there is no Higher Power in the Universe than man. The details are just frosting on the cake in both instances.

–noun a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings. You do you not believe in Zeus. Zeus is a supreme being. Therefore you are a atheist. The god is just the frosting on the cake.

Actually, i'm a product of the 60's and for most of my life my "thoughts and ideals" were molded by the trinity worshipped during that period--drugs, sex, and rock-n-roll. God, in his mercy delivered me from my self-destruction and now actively "molds my thoughts and ideals" Himself.

Your parents where christian. Therefore you are christian. If your parents were Muslim you would be Muslim. If you were born in South Africa, you would think South Africa is better than America. Drugs, sex and rock-roll are not ideals. They are means to ideals.

YO! Now who is making sweeping generalizations?

You still are. I simply said that you one person is wrong. Not your entire religion. I will save that for another forum.

If you really believe that a mindless force of nature is greater than you, perhaps you need some self-image/self-esteem assistance from a trained professional--Jesus your bro
brother, for example.

A black hole is greater than me and it is mindless. I have no problem with that. Last time I checked I do not consume dead stars.

 

[Celticflower]

I was under the impression that atheist didn't worship anything. Also, if they don't believe in the existance of a God, why on earth would they accept the existance of Satan?
Atheist may put faith in the theories and principles of science, but I don't think it rises to the level of worship in most cases (every walk of life has its lunatic fringe).

 

[Foreshadow]

Atheists don't accept the existence of Satan. What are you talking about?
Atheists don't put faith in their theories or anything else for that matter. Scientific theories are based on fact and principles are based on common sense.

 

[Celticflower]

Atheists don't accept the existence of Satan. What are you talking about?

I didn't say they did. I asked if they don't believe in God why would they believe in Satan. Just because one dismisses point A does not automatically make them a believer in point B.

Atheists don't put faith in their theories or anything else for that matter. Scientific theories are based on fact and principles are based on common sense.

Theories are a blend of fact and conjecture. A theory is unproven, therefore you have to take it on faith that it is true until proven or disproven.

 

[Foreshadow]

I didn't say they did. I asked if they don't believe in God why would they believe in Satan. Just because one dismisses point A does not automatically make them a believer in point B. Theories are a blend of fact and conjecture. A theory is unproven, therefore you have to take it on faith that it is true until proven or disproven.

Fair point. But that would also mean that God is not proven because most Christians have willing blind faith in God. Therefore God is not true until proven or dis proven.

 

[apwood]

So in conlusion every single thing you just said is wrong. I do not worship myself. I do not dream of any grandeur. I do concieve of something greater than myself. I simply think it is something natural like a black hole. Atheism is not a collection of minds, but simply a term used to describe anyone who doesnt not believe in A god. You do not believe in Zeus or Thor or countless other Gods from different religions. Therefore you are a atheist. With this simply defination, everyone is a atheist in some form, some people like me just take it one god further. Good day sir.

Voltaire said "The world embarrasses me, and I cannot think that this watch exists and has no Watchmaker."

He was indeed correct. It is sad to see the atheistic accidental attitude. It is embarrassing for sure.

Oh, and to answer your question : "Atheists worship the devil!?"

No, they do not. I personally believe they worship rocks, monkeys (chimpanzees, lemurs, our "fathers"), accidents, and chance.

 

[Foreshadow]

Thank you sir. You have reminded me of another thing. ATHEISTS DO NOT BELIEVE WE CAME BE BY ACCIDENT. We believe that natural selection is the reason for our coming to be. According to DNA EVIDENCE We are 99.8 percent similar to chimpanzees and 98 percent similar to every other mammal.

 

[seashale76]

Thank you sir. You have reminded me of another thing. ATHEISTS DO NOT BELIEVE WE CAME BE BY ACCIDENT. We believe that natural selection is the reason for our coming to be. According to DNA EVIDENCE We are 99.8 percent similar to chimpanzees and 98 percent similar to every other mammal.

I really don't think there is an overarching atheist belief system to appeal to here. You may believe this and also be an atheist. However, not all atheists believe as you do.

 

[Foreshadow]

All atheists believe in evolution. Natural selection is part of evolution. So yes all atheists believe as I do.

 

[pgp_protector]

The one thing that all atheists do have in common, however, is that they worship themselves, and can conceive of nothing greater existing in the universe than their tiny little selves with their tiny little powers trapped in their tiny little egocentric boxes dreaming tiny little hubristic dreams of grandeur.

Quite sad, really. A soul is a terrible thing to waste!

A BOND-SLAVE/FRIEND/BROTHER OF OUR LORD/GOD/SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST,
ephraim

Isn't it most Christians that say that all of space & time was made for man ?
I've never met an atheist that thought that nothing greater existed than them.

 

[Foreshadow]

Thank you Protector took the words right out of my mouth

 

[Sketcher]

They don't worship the devil. They worship themselves. Which the devil is perfectly fine with, since that's enough to get them condemned with him.

 

[Foreshadow]

Did you not read the last 14 posts?

 

[seashale76]

All atheists believe in evolution. Natural selection is part of evolution. So yes all atheists believe as I do.

Do they? That's an interesting assumption.

 

[apwood]

Thank you sir. You have reminded me of another thing. ATHEISTS DO NOT BELIEVE WE CAME BE BY ACCIDENT. We believe that natural selection is the reason for our coming to be. According to DNA EVIDENCE We are 99.8 percent similar to chimpanzees and 98 percent similar to every other mammal.

Accident - any event that happens unexpectedly, without a deliberate plan or cause.

Since God did not create everything we see in the atheistic eye view, that would mean life, the planets, the sun, the stars, the trees, and everything we literally see happened unexpectedly (which is true, because it's not like the universe planned to bring everything into existence now did it?), and there was no plan or cause for it. It just "happened", and you cannot explain why it happened in the first place or what that started it came from.

That would mean you and I are accidents, your parents are accidents, our children are accidents, and everything we see is an accident.

Of course I am laughing right now that anyone can believe fish, dogs, cats, humans, animals, plants, the sun, water, the ozone layer, the moon, the planets, the stars, information, love, physical feelings, and the billions of other things that you can see, feel, hear, taste, or smell just happened without any intelligent process guiding the way.

I would expect something "dumb" to come from a process that has no intelligence and no guidance, yet all of the above show the opposite - something knew what it was doing.

Francis Thompson said an atheist is a man who thinks himself is an accident.

He is absolutely correct.

Have you ever seen a dust particle? That is your brain. You and I are mere humans, and have brains the size of a (single) dust particle. We know nothing. We know 0.0001% of literally anything.

Do you expect, as a human, with 0.0001% knowledge of anything, to even come a inch of a 1st to understanding such power as the creator (God)?

If you are trying to prove that life came from monkeys and rocks, you have convinced me quite well in your beliefs. You may have came from rocks and monkeys, but I have not.

I imagine a plane blowing up to pieces and then coming back together and taking off for flight by itself for the reason being "it's just happened" as the atheistic view of how the world came about.

I believe the human intelligence can put a plane together to set it off for flight. I do not believe a plane can put itself back together "just cause of natures will".

Do you also believe that your dinner has no cook?

I am sorry if this sounds harsh, but brrrrr...what a cold room you live in. I am sure I wouldn't even be invited in the first place, but please do remind me to never come in if the door is wide open at any single point in time.

 

[Foreshadow]

It is not a assumption. There are two main theroies of life. Creationism and Evolution. Atheists do not believe in a all powerful deity so they can no believe in creationism. So the only thing that is left is Evolution. So by process of elimination all atheists believe in Evolution.