Atheists, Theists, and Evolution

[Ed Vidence]

Atheists, Theists, and Evolution

How do we explain when all three agree ?

Objective persons know genuine theists and genuine atheists are mortal worldview enemies. But the facts of reality make this objective observation a "lie" when the issue is evolution.

For all intents and purposes, all atheists support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution. This fact betrays an axiomatic truth: If evolution was anything about supporting the existence and handiwork of the Genesis Creator, then they would not support.

However, a large mass of persons who think of themselves as theists and Christians wholeheartedly support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution just as much as any atheist.

These preceding facts demand ONE fact is not a fact.

Either the atheist is not a real atheist or the theist/Christian is not a real theist/Christian IF the first fact is true (atheists and theists mortal worldview enemies).

There is no way around it; the theists/Christians are not as such. How do we now explain their belief about themselves and actions ?

Luke 22:48

"But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?"

Judas = TEists.

kiss = support of atheist evolution.

Looks like the Bible perfectly corresponds with reality.

EV

 

[notto]

For all intents and purposes, all atheists support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution. This fact betrays an axiomatic truth: If evolution was anything about supporting the existence and handiwork of the Genesis Creator, then they would not support.

It also betrays the truth that evolution says nothing one way or another about the existence of God. You left out the obvious option that atheists disagree with theists who suggest that evolution says anything about the existence of God.

However, a large mass of persons who think of themselves as theists and Christians wholeheartedly support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution just as much as any atheist.

And imagine your surprise when you find out that they both support things like physics and meteorology!

Evolution != atheism.

 

[JohnR7]

There is no way around it;

What there is no way around is that there is a harlot apostate church out there. I am not saying this is the answer to your question but the Bible does say that there will be false brothers and false teachers. It is a good question though and worthy of consideration.

 

[Ed Vidence]

For all intents and purposes, all atheists support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution. This fact betrays an axiomatic truth: If evolution was anything about supporting the existence and handiwork of the Genesis Creator, then they would not support.

It also betrays the truth that evolution says nothing one way or another about the existence of God. You left out the obvious option that atheists disagree with theists who suggest that evolution says anything about the existence of God.

Evolution != atheism.

Why would a Darwinist suddenly betray the central point of Darwin's theory (Genesis Creator not involved in nature) ? This is also tantamount to asserting the earth is flat.

We have TEist rhetoric evading the invulnerable OP points and logic.

EV

 

[TheBear]

Luke 22:48

"But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?"

Judas = TEists.

kiss = support of atheist evolution.

Looks like the Bible perfectly corresponds with reality.

EV

Amazing.

 

[pantsman52]

Why would a Darwinist suddenly betray the central point of Darwin's theory (Genesis Creator not involved in nature) ? This is also tantamount to asserting the earth is flat.

We have TEist rhetoric evading the invulnerable OP points and logic.

EV

I don't remember reading that central point in any biology books. The basic point of Evolution is that mutations add up over a long time and life changes.

 

[Hydra009]

Atheists, Theists, and Evolution

How do we explain when all three agree ?

That science is independant of people's beliefs, in much the same way that atheists and theists both accept gravity and germ theory.

Objective persons know genuine theists and genuine atheists are mortal worldview enemies.

This doesn't logically follow - people with contradictory opinions on a topic does not necessarily mean that they are "mortal enemies", only that they disagree.

For all intents and purposes, all atheists support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution. This fact betrays an axiomatic truth: If evolution was anything about supporting the existence and handiwork of the Genesis Creator, then they would not support.

However, a large mass of persons who think of themselves as theists and Christians wholeheartedly support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution just as much as any atheist.

No surprise here. Both figured out evolution was well-supported by scientific evidence, just like any other mainstream scientific theory. Creationists are still plagued by a fundamentalist mindset which prevents an objective analysis of the evidence for evolution - God said it, I believe it, therefore evolution is an attack on my religious beliefs and is wrong.

These preceding facts demand ONE fact is not a fact.

No they don't.

Luke 22:48

"But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?"

Judas = TEists.

kiss = support of atheist evolution.

Selective interpretation of the Bible, is there anything you cannot do?

 

[Mocca]

"If A, then B" does not imply "If B, then A."

"If A, then B" does not imply "If not A, then not B."

"If A, then B" implies "If not B, then not A."

"If atheist, then evolutionist," does not imply "If evolutionist, then atheist," and also does not imply: "If not atheist, then not evolutionist."

Therefore: "If atheist, then evolutionist," does not imply "If Christian, then not evolutionist."

What a logically deficient argument you have there.

 

[TeddyKGB]

Notto, apparently we are mortal enemies. I think that means this town's not big enough for the both of us.

Pistols at dawn?

 

[Mocca]

Teddy, I'm on your side. Notto, you're going down! I'm sure we could persuade Hydra to join us... together we will vanquish the Christians, because it's an obvious fact that Christians and atheists cannot agree on anything, and are mortal enemies.

 

[chaoschristian]

Atheists, Theists, and Evolution

How do we explain when all three agree ?

Objective persons know genuine theists and genuine atheists are mortal worldview enemies. But the facts of reality make this objective observation a "lie" when the issue is evolution.

For all intents and purposes, all atheists support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution. This fact betrays an axiomatic truth: If evolution was anything about supporting the existence and handiwork of the Genesis Creator, then they would not support.

However, a large mass of persons who think of themselves as theists and Christians wholeheartedly support and defend neo-Darwinian evolution just as much as any atheist.

These preceding facts demand ONE fact is not a fact.

Either the atheist is not a real atheist or the theist/Christian is not a real theist/Christian IF the first fact is true (atheists and theists mortal worldview enemies).

There is no way around it; the theists/Christians are not as such. How do we now explain their belief about themselves and actions ?

Luke 22:48

"But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?"

Judas = TEists.

kiss = support of atheist evolution.

Looks like the Bible perfectly corresponds with reality.

EV

The confounding thing is if this post wasn't associated with a CF profile, then there would be no way to tell if it had been written by a non-theist or a neo-creationist.

Atheists be warned, your pistols will do naught against my Mauser and a well hidden firing position.

 

[Asimov]

The confounding thing is if this post wasn't associated with a CF profile, then there would be no way to tell if it had been written by a non-theist or a neo-creationist.

Atheists be warned, your pistols will do naught against my Mauser and a well hidden firing position.

Isn't a Mauser a cat? You know...specific cats bred for hunting mice?

 

[Mocca]

Hmm... well, I know how to make explosives and napalm! Good luck hiding from Mr. Fire, you evil Christian.

 

[Gracchus]

Why would a Darwinist suddenly betray the central point of Darwin's theory (Genesis Creator not involved in nature) ? This is also tantamount to asserting the earth is flat.

We have TEist rhetoric evading the invulnerable OP points and logic.

The central point of the Theory of Evolution has nothing whatsoever to say about Genesis, or creation. To maintain this is to spread a falsehood. If you spread a falsehood knowing it to be a falsehood, you are a liar. If you spread a falsehood believing it to be true, then you are ignorant, or demented.

 

[chaoschristian]

On Topic: do all atheists support neo-Darwinian evolutionary theory?

Is this a necessary part of being an atheist?

Isn't a Mauser a cat? You know...specific cats bred for hunting mice?

Scroll down to the bottom of my signature. With an effective range of 1600m I would like to see someone chuck a Molotov at me.

 

[Uphill Battle]

Notto, apparently we are mortal enemies. I think that means this town's not big enough for the both of us.

Pistols at dawn?

"off topic post"

Hey Teddy. Long time. How are the knees holding up?

"return to on topic"

Is the OP really trying to assert that evolution=atheism? I didn't get that.

 

[Mocca]

Naw, it wouldn't have to be something as simple as a molotov. I've built a cannon. I didn't get to use it too often, as the BACK OF IT BLEW OFF WHEN I FIRED! *angry look* But dang, the ball went pretty dang far, and the noise was deafening. (It was also like 110283709128 meters off target, but then again, the back blew off, and it wasn't really designed for precision.)

I'm planning on trying again the next time I have access to the tools and the place.

Except this time... it'll work.

 

[Lord_Marx]

On Topic: do all atheists support neo-Darwinian evolutionary theory?

Is this a necessary part of being an atheist?

The only belief required to be an athiest is a lack of one in a god.

 

[Uphill Battle]

The only belief required to be an athiest is a lack of one in a god.

of that I understand. Wouldn't, by default, an Atheist need to be an Evo, if they were to consider origins? (or more specifically, abiogenesis, but you get my point.)

 

[TeddyKGB]

On Topic: do all atheists support neo-Darwinian evolutionary theory?

I suppose there are specific forms of panspermia/exogenesis which are both atheistic and non-evolutionary.

Is this a necessary part of being an atheist?

No.