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How, exactly? What about reality leads in any way to the conclusion that there is a divine Creator?
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How, exactly? What about reality leads in any way to the conclusion that there is a divine Creator?Look I love all you guys, but ya'll need to use the same reasoning in of your minds to look at consciousness(cause and effect) Which laws of nature and the laws of science and of reasoning show more than one parallel of reality, to reality! For the most part the Bible and the supernatural reveals itself in the Creator----God.
Look ask God to reveal to you His transcending thoughts, for it seems, no matter how I relay reasoning and of science in and around cause and effect. You miss it. So It is me, not you! Our limitations point to a creator!How, exactly? What about reality leads in any way to the conclusion that there is a divine Creator?
How do you ask God a question? I'm not being flippant, I'm asking a serious question.Look ask God to reveal to you His transcending thoughts, for it seems, no matter how I relay reasoning and of science in and around cause and effect. You miss it. So It is me, not you! Our limitations point to a creator!
To yourself or out loud for God is listening. Just ask Him to reveal Himself to you? Look to His people,science and His word. With real intent(whole heartily)! Seek and you shall find and be-careful what you pray for!How do you ask God a question? I'm not being flippant, I'm asking a serious question.
sure. there are many ways of thinking, but facts and proof are not apart of faith. it is the absence of it. These words are attributed to one way of thinking and faith is attributed to another way of thinking.
Maybe it leafed through it?
You know that most scientist are out standing in their field?
And one last one
It's because it started as a grass roots movement.
Now please list the books mate!
Hay buddy, the God cause isn't something that can be all known to us. Even us Christians in heaven are not going to be privy to what all God knows or in that what all makes Him God. The limitation in laws of science, physics and nature shows much, however; we see parallel reality's between mind ,science and supernatural. By using cause and effect using that law in both worlds. You can come up with a logical explanations. Are they completely known to you, no!Well, have you not said that everything has a cause and effect? According to your reasoning, God would also need a cause, correct? I am arguing that if God needs a cause, God's cause would need a cause, and so on and so forth for eternity. The concept of creationism would be infinite and paradoxical.
For the most part the Bible and the supernatural reveals itself in the Creator----God.
sorry to break it to you but if i really wanted fairies to exist and asked for them to reveal themselves to me they would. Its the nature of the human condition and its ability to construct unreality and believe it.Look ask God to reveal to you His transcending thoughts, for it seems, no matter how I relay reasoning and of science in and around cause and effect. You miss it. So It is me, not you! Our limitations point to a creator!
once upon a time people believed lightning to be the spear of Zeus. Science has shown us how lightning is generated and what it is made of.There is a-lot to which is unseen that is important to you. You acknowledge them all the time, but you can't tell me where they come from! You differentiate between the seen and unseen with in yourself, but won't acknowledge the fact of intelligent designer all around you that is unseen to seen! Nothing comes from nothing!
allhart said:Hay buddy, the God cause isn't something that can be all known to us. Even us Christians in heaven are not going to be privy to what all God knows or in that what all makes Him God. The limitation in laws of science, physics and nature shows much, however; we see parallel reality's between mind ,science and supernatural. By using cause and effect using that law in both worlds. You can come up with a logical explanations. Are they completely known to you, no!
The mind and Supernatural, but you can't seem to bridge the gap! We can't see it, but we know somethings there!
In-like on a balcony you can't see something for the height and depth, but you can see something there, but can't make it out!
Well we don't write like we speak. I'm going to college 10/26 for grammar, so please forgive my inadequacy!If that was the case, the need for a God would be unnecessary. One could simply say that since the universe does not according to our perception of reality, the universe could have simply appeared from nowhere.
How do you know something is there?
Allhart, are you a native English speaker?
Supernatural? Can you prove the existence of at least one? Anything supernatural will do! Just one will suffice! Prove one itsy bitsy little supernatural thing!Well we don't write like we speak. I'm going to college 10/26 for grammar, so please forgive my inadequacy!
We look at both perspectives of reality in theory with science and laws, but "you" following the facts when it come to the supernatural falls short. You pull back, why? And I don't mean the spooky kind either.
For example, Can you see ones inner strength? How far one determination will go? Not just endurance. Do you see my point?
Like i said matter, material of matter, atoms of matter can't explain itself, so where does intelligence, your mind, and consciousness come from? In using laws of nature and of the cosmos. Cause and effect pacifically, you first have to acknowledge that your mind and body are two distinct polar opposites!Supernatural? Can you prove the existence of at least one? Anything supernatural will do! Just one will suffice! Prove one itsy bitsy little supernatural thing!
No?
Well then; the supernatural does not exist then does it?
Also one's inner strength does not come from the supernatural but from the ability of the brain to control a situation even if it means paying the ultimate price. This strength can be attributed to many variables and conditions and must be taken case by case! There is no God involved here.
Now Y'all have a nice day there
so where does intelligence, your mind, and consciousness come from?
Evolve doesn't happen, no evidence of it in mans recorded history of time or in archeology. The bridge to consciousness and matter without a supernatural intervention will never be crossed! Thanks for the other!No, no, no. It isn't hard to see how creatures could evolve to, eventually, gain sentience. It seems to me that the rise of verbal communication had a great deal to do with the rise of thought.
What you mean is that science alone cannot explain purpose, yet, as has been pointed out to you, science never has a goal to explain the meaning or purpose of things. That is the realm of philosophy and religion. To some people, the meaning of life just isn't all that important. To others, it is very important.
Evolve doesn't happen, no evidence of it in mans recorded history of time or in archeology.
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