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Atheist Discussion on CNN

SkepticalOne

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=tiyJzWy3CDQ

My personal favorite::

"I think they need to shut up and let people do what they do. No, I think they need to shut up about it."

I can tell she's Christian, the love just radiates off of her. No, really, I can feel it from here.
 

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You're probably aware of it already, but for those who aren't. Apparently CNN got such a negative response on that segment that they're doing a follow up piece on it tomorrow night. This time they'll actually have a couple atheists in the panel.
 
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=tiyJzWy3CDQ

My personal favorite::

"I think they need to shut up and let people do what they do. No, I think they need to shut up about it."

I can tell she's Christian, the love just radiates off of her. No, really, I can feel it from here.

I find it quite ironic that an African-American and a Jew, both women, would ask a minority to shut up about being discriminated against.

I was quite surprised to hear that people actually use the "Freedom of religion is not freedom from religion" soundbite.
I mean, it's so meaningless that I thought it was only appropriate for internet forums or chatrooms.

My personal favourite would be this :
"Don't impose upon my right to want to have prayer in schools".

I'm not American, and I don't watch much TV, so I would like to ask : are these CNN panels always that silly?

PS: there is a transcript of the show here.
The segment discussed in the OP is at the bottom of the page.
 
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Who were those people?


Tof said:
My personal favourite would be this :
"Don't impose upon my right to want to have prayer in schools".
Yeah that was good, I like this one though:

SCHLUSSEL: (INAUDIBLE) Look where there are more atheists and where they've lost God, where the church is not that strong. Europe is becoming Islamist. It's fast falling and intolerance is increasing. That's the one reason our country has not become like Europe because we have strong Christians and because atheists are not strong. And I think that's a good thing.
 
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SCHLUSSEL: (INAUDIBLE) Look where there are more atheists and where they've lost God, where the church is not that strong. Europe is becoming Islamist. It's fast falling and intolerance is increasing. That's the one reason our country has not become like Europe because we have strong Christians and because atheists are not strong. And I think that's a good thing.
Are you kidding? Europe is the most Christian place on the planet.
 
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A panel discussion on atheism and they forget to invite atheist? And then they say atheist are not discriminated?

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Yeah, that was my thought. BUt then again, it seems that every time I watch these sort of panel discussions on any cable news networks they all lack substance. It's either one side being unfairly represented, people yelling at eachother, or people throwing around a bunch of platitudes and making pithy responses. In the words of John Stewart, they're hurting America.

This is why I personally listen to NPR, their discussion on topics actually seem to have some sort of substance. And I've never heard two people sitting there just yelling at eachother.
 
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This thread reminds me of this:

They came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.


--Pastor Martin Niemoller
 
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This was dumb, on both sides.

I'd love to see statistics of how many people are evicted from their house for atheism. If anything, I would assume this is an extreme case. But, I could be wrong.

Also, the panel was dumb. Let's get some religious zealots and have them tell us why we should be angry at atheists. This makes no sense.
 
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Well that's how you get ratings. You put the craziest people with the oddest stories you can find on the air.

Most atheists don't come up against that sort prejudice. My typical encounters with the weirdos is at worst a scathing comment. Granted I don't think anybody really wants to mess with me because I like to dress in black, therefore I am crazy;) . Also it never fails to amuse me how people say "You're an...*whisper* atheist?" */whisper*"

The funny thing is that I have been harassed for being Muslim when I got lazy and stopped shaving for too long. I would just be walking to class and random people in pick ups would yell anti-muslim junk at me. God bless red states.
 
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Found this response on About.com, and liked it so I thought I'd share...


about.com said:
Actually, I think I'm doing him a disservice here because his point, made very succinctly, is more complex and important than my comments show. When he says "there's a whole bunch of people in this world that we can look at and say they need to shut up and they certainly don't," I think he's referring to the fact that whenever a minority is agitating for an end to unjust privileges and the expansion of equality, those in charge who benefit from the privileges almost invariably respond by telling the minority to shut up, to stop rocking the boat, to not be so disrespectful or obnoxious, that they will achieve more by being more moderate and peaceful, etc.


Many whites told this to blacks agitating for civil rights in America, for example, and while the situation for atheists today isn't as awful as it was for blacks in the 1960s, it's not a coincidence that Christians are saying similar things to atheists that they once said to blacks. The reason why is because these responses are all excuses for maintaining the unjust privileges in the face of strong moral and legal arguments against them. These responses are all about attacking our "tone" and "attitude" because this allows those defending the status quo to avoid addressing our substantive arguments with equally substantive responses.



Read the whole thing...


http://atheism.about.com/b/a/258728.htm
 
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Found this response on About.com, and liked it so I thought I'd share...

Read the whole thing...

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/258728.htm
I was actually very impressed by the male panelist. He ended up getting drowned out by the vitriol of the other two, but he was the only one with what seemed like a level head on his shoulders. Not bad for someone with the title ESPN Analyst.
 
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