Atheist, becoming synomous with hippocrite?

mark46 · Feb 28, 2011

Uh, oh, a Christian perspective on a Christian message board!

pgp_protector said:
Well before one worries about the other side shouldn't one get their own side in order first?

cbradley · Feb 28, 2011

I always think it's funny when this kind of battle happens. Person 1 puts up a sign to intentionally annoy person 2. Person 2 calls him on it. Person 1 says it's fair because he finds person 2's signs offensive first. Then they both accuse each other of being MORE intolerant, when the truth is that neither one is being very open minded at all.

Why do Christians always say they're being harrassed? Because from my non-Christian, non-atheist pov, living in Texas and constantly travelling around the US, I see that a whole lot of anti-Christianity is flippantly disregarded. Next to Scientology, right now I don't think there's a single religion more mocked or openly discriminated against.

I just wish everybody would cede that all religious and irreligious beliefs have been greatly mistreated by at least one of the others, and then use their free speech to, I don't know, say something important instead.

KarateCowboy · Feb 28, 2011

I found that billboard by answersingenesis to be rather poignant. The first one I did not understand. The third is a taunt.

A hypocrite is a person who teaches something and does the opposite. These atheists were not; just jerks.

craigerNY · Mar 1, 2011

tulc said:
And they eat puppies.
tulc(just sayn')

Not just puppies but sandwiches made with two puppies and a baby in the middle.......without mustard.

KarateCowboy said:
I found that billboard by answersingenesis to be rather poignant. The first one I did not understand. The third is a taunt.

A hypocrite is a person who teaches something and does the opposite. These atheists were not; just jerks.

I am pretty sure the Asian one is shoped.

RedDead1981 · Mar 1, 2011

craigerNY said:
I am pretty sure the Asian one is shoped.

That was my impression.

KarateCowboy · Mar 1, 2011

craigerNY said:
Not just puppies but sandwiches made with two puppies and a baby in the middle.......without mustard.

I am pretty sure the Asian one is shoped.

RedDead1981 said:
That was my impression.

Pretty strange, for sure! We're all scratching our heads from that one!

purpledolphin8402 · Mar 1, 2011

KarateCowboy said:
I found that billboard by answersingenesis to be rather poignant. The first one I did not understand. The third is a taunt.

A hypocrite is a person who teaches something and does the opposite. These atheists were not; just jerks.

How is poignant? Are you saying that just because someone doesn't believe in a god they don't care about anyone or anything? The third is not a "taunt" it's saying that if you're not a Christian you can't be a true American. As a daughter and granddaughter of former Marines, I find this deeply offensive. Now, do I think the American Atheist billboards are pushing it? Yes, I do. However, there have been a lot of billboards put up by atheist organizations that are said to be offensive, when they are clearly not. "One nation, indivisible" was how the original pledge was written. The bus signs "Millions are good without god" was seen as offensive as well. Why? What's wrong with there being people who don't believe in god being good people?

So you stick up for billboards that are not only blatantly derogatory, you call us the jerks for something that's tame in comparison. I fail to see how calling a story a myth is worse than setting out to make a group of people look like they're anti-American and causing a civil war and blood thirsty, killers.

variant · Mar 1, 2011

Zambieboy said:
how could such a blatant assault on the Christian Faith be allowed to exist in a public place? I must have missed the memo that harsh bigotry is now permitted to be displayed for the masses. Please be kind enough to post your thoughts on this base defilement of civility. Thanks!

Saying what you think is what this country was founded on, you missed civics 101.

You do not have a right not to be offended by the speech of others.

new_wine · Mar 1, 2011

Look I can see their side.

How would you like to have the world reversed? Where atheism was the majority and theism was the minority? Wouldn't you get real peeved after time listening to all the atheist garbage and never hearing your own views espoused by people?

It is like being black in the 50's where everyone on TV and the movies were almost always white and any black was portrayed as a criminal or a servant.

Like being gay and seeing all those straight sex and love scenes but never seeing anything of your own.

Walk a mile in the other persons' shoes. I understand. I won't live as an atheist does, but I could understand what it would be like to be the outcast.

Anyway it is just a billboard. I see lots of billboards telling me to buy and do stuff I wouldn't buy or do.

KarateCowboy · Mar 1, 2011

purpledolphin8402 said:
How is poignant?

I figure it kind of makes sense.

Are you saying that just because someone doesn't believe in a god they don't care about anyone or anything?

Is that what I wrote?

The third is not a "taunt" it's saying that if you're not a Christian you can't be a true American.

The dictionary describes a taunt as a noun meaning " A remark made in order to anger, wound, or provoke someone. ". Given that, and this:

As a daughter and granddaughter of former Marines, I find this deeply offensive.

I conclude it is a taunt, and it worked on you.

Now, do I think the American Atheist billboards are pushing it? Yes, I do.

Me too.

However, there have been a lot of billboards put up by atheist organizations that are said to be offensive, when they are clearly not.

I don't see many of those, so I can't say much about them. But I can say that offense is a subjective thing.

"One nation, indivisible" was how the original pledge was written. The bus signs "Millions are good without god" was seen as offensive as well. Why?

I never saw that one. However it seems obvious why people find it offensive: it smacks of the pride and arrogance that goes back all the way to the first sin in the Garden. As if a sinful heart can be called good. How arrogant. Actually, the more I think about it the more offensive it seems.

So you stick up for billboards that are not only blatantly derogatory, you call us the jerks for something that's tame in comparison.

I never put up any billboard and I never called you a jerk.

I fail to see how calling a story a myth is worse than setting out to make a group of people look like they're anti-American and causing a civil war and blood thirsty, killers.

I agree with you on the 'fail' part. That whole sentence is full of 'fail'. EPIC 'fail'.

TerranceL · Mar 1, 2011

Zambieboy said:
I was flipping through the magazine "The Week" the other day and a certain article happened to catch my eye. The article in particular commented on a billboard that was erected around Christmas that was sponsored by "American Atheists." This vulgar advertisement sported the message "You KNOW it's a myth, this season celebrate reason." This proclamation was apparently in response to unrest among atheists of the region due to public Nativity Scenes and other displays of Christmas Spirit. By the time I finished the article i was thoroughly steamed; how could such a blatant assault on the Christian Faith be allowed to exist in a public place? I must have missed the memo that harsh bigotry is now permitted to be displayed for the masses. Please be kind enough to post your thoughts on this base defilement of civility. Thanks!

There was nothing vulgar, if you don't like it you can feel free to buy the billboards and put up what you want.

purpledolphin8402 · Mar 2, 2011

KarateCowboy said:
I never saw that one. However it seems obvious why people find it offensive: it smacks of the pride and arrogance that goes back all the way to the first sin in the Garden. As if a sinful heart can be called good. How arrogant. Actually, the more I think about it the more offensive it seems.

What you call original sin, I call an unnecessary guilt trip. If you don't think I'm a good person because I don't believe that I'm being punished for two people eating a piece of fruit from a magical tree thousands of years ago, so be it.

I never put up any billboard and I never called you a jerk.

Never said you put up the billboards, you just defended them. Since I am an atheist, you calling atheists jerks would be calling me one as well.

I agree with you on the 'fail' part. That whole sentence is full of 'fail'. EPIC 'fail'.

EPIC fail isn't much of an argument. Care to elaborate?

Grizzly · Mar 2, 2011

SOAD said:
Hey Grizzly, the war on Christmas has been carried over!

But it's almost St. Patricks Day! It's hard for me to switch back to the war on Christmas when I am engaged in a war on shamrocks. I just can't fight a war on two fronts!

AirPo · Mar 2, 2011

fwosp?

SOAD · Mar 2, 2011

Grizzly said:
But it's almost St. Patricks Day! It's hard for me to switch back to the war on Christmas when I am engaged in a war on shamrocks. I just can't fight a war on two fronts!

Question.

They are always after me Lucky Charms

Conspiracy or fact?

DeathMagus · Mar 2, 2011

Grizzly said:
But it's almost St. Patricks Day! It's hard for me to switch back to the war on Christmas when I am engaged in a war on shamrocks. I just can't fight a war on two fronts!

Quick! Invade Russia - that will solve all of your problems!

Ayersy · Mar 2, 2011

I believe this is relevant.

KarateCowboy · Mar 2, 2011

purpledolphin8402 said:
What you call original sin, I call an unnecessary guilt trip. If you don't think I'm a good person because I don't believe that I'm being punished for two people eating a piece of fruit from a magical tree thousands of years ago, so be it.

I don't recall saying that. I stated that people find those ads you spoke offensive because they are making very arrogant statements, the variety of arrogance being very old.

Never said you put up the billboards, you just defended them. Since I am an atheist, you calling atheists jerks would be calling me one as well.

I did not defend any billboards outside of saying that one of them struck a note with me in a certain way. That's not even claiming the billboard is justified. And, I said 'these' atheists were being jerks. 'These' is a personal pronoun referring to a specific group of people. Welcome to the English language.

EPIC fail isn't much of an argument. Care to elaborate?

Not really. I'm frustrated by how you misunderstand about every other sentence I write. Let's focus on your reading ability first.

craigerNY · Mar 2, 2011

Grizzly said:
But it's almost St. Patricks Day! It's hard for me to switch back to the war on Christmas when I am engaged in a war on shamrocks. I just can't fight a war on two fronts!

The leprechauns are a sneaky lot, you never see them coming. We will need to set up ambushes at the end of every rainbow in sight.

DaisyDay · Mar 2, 2011

KarateCowboy said:
'These' is a personal pronoun referring to a specific group of people. Welcome to the English language.

'These' is NOT a personal pronoun; 'I', 'you', 'he', 'she', etc. are personal pronouns. 'These' isn't a pronoun at all the way you used it - you are not substituting 'these' for any noun. You used it a a determinate adjective to modify the noun 'atheists' (which atheists? these atheists). Welcome to the English language.

Of course, for this, I'll soon get my own comeuppance.

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