I was looking for a probability, not a bibliography. If you don't know the answer, it's OK to just say so.
Speaking of long odds...
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there is a book
called "science speaks" by peter stoner I believe that has the statistics of 30 prophecies coming true, then He does 300 I think.
He says it is as likely as filling texas 2 feet deep in silver dollars and picking one.
If I remember accurately
God didn't make you do it, you have a free will. God allowed it, but didn't make it happen.
God is self existent and self defining, because He is a universal agent, and has universal agency.
unless you know what caused the singularity that caused the big bang, all we have is my option which is God did it. There are no other hypothesis.
it's both
Eusebius (CE 263-399), placed Job "two ages before Moses" or 2,000-1,500 BCE
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No, it does not work like that. Not knowing what causes lightning does not mean Zeus is the only explanation. First off you need to show that the singularity required a cause. Then you need to show that your God is the cause. Just claiming you don't know therefore my god is a classic God of the gaps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
unless you know what caused the singularity that caused the big bang, all we have is my option which is God did it. There are no other hypothesis.
pliny the younger and josephus both testify to Christ. That he was real. And the Biblical texts state what day He rode in to Jerusalem. So I am unsure what you are talking about.
They prophesied the exact day 483 years ahead of time, from the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to the very same day Christ came (donkeys are not in the prophecy- I don't think).
pliny the younger and josephus both testify to Christ. That he was real. And the Biblical texts state what day He rode in to Jerusalem. So I am unsure what you are talking about.
They prophesied the exact day 483 years ahead of time, from the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem to the very same day Christ came (donkeys are not in the prophecy- I don't think).
That's the argument from ignorance fallacy "If you can't prove your case, then my claim is proven to be right". It doesn't work that way.
If it does work that way, then I will use your exact same argument against you and be equally as justified.
Unless you know what caused God, or in the case that he is infinite, can demonstrate that he is actually is infinte... then all we have is my option which is the Big Bang caused the creation of the universe through purely natural processes. There are no other hypotheses.
Stated that way, I'm sure you can see the obvious logical flaw in the argument.
Just because we don't understand what caused the big bang, does not allow you to plug your god into the equation and assert it as truth. That is also committing the "God of the Gaps" fallacy.
The honest answer is we don't know how the universe was created in full. Trying to make up an answer for the sake of having an answer is counter-productive. We would be far better served by continuing to investigate, learn all we can on the topic and hopefully one day be able to fully understand it.
You are actually mistaken. A theist needs to provide evidence that would make his claim that an intelligent being created the universe more plausible than its negation. You seem to misunderstand, as many of your fellows have as well, that empirically verifiable evidence is not the only type of evidence used in determining the veracity of a truth claim. If it were, then the vast majority of what we consider historical knowledge must be considered mere speculation since little of what we know about history can be proven empirically. The same is true of moral values, logical laws, and mathematical principles. Clearly we have knowledge of these things, and yet we lack empirical evidence for them. Indeed, empirical evidence is not even possible for such things.
Once we allow for exceptional claims to be accepted as hypotheses there are in fact countless other options.unless you know what caused the singularity that caused the big bang, all we have is my option which is God did it. There are no other hypothesis.
Mr. Ellis, you are mistaken in your analogy. For in your assertion, you state that we must be able to ascertain what caused God. In saying this you show a lack of understanding regarding God's nature. The theistic God has many attributes, two of which are His aseity, and necessity. Aseity means that He is by definition uncaused. So when you use the phrase "what caused God" you are actually saying: "what caused that which has no cause", which is self-defeating.
Well, but the problem is that you can´t simply define things into existence.Mr. Ellis, you are mistaken in your analogy. For in your assertion, you state that we must be able to ascertain what caused God. In saying this you show a lack of understanding regarding God's nature. The theistic God has many attributes, two of which are His aseity, and necessity. Aseity means that He is by definition uncaused.
Your idea that God is uncaused is self-defeating because God, by definition, is caused by METAGOD.So when you use the phrase "what caused God" you are actually saying: "what caused that which has no cause", which is self-defeating.
Both of Pliny the Younger and Josephus were born decades after Christ was supposedly killed, and their writings on the topic date from the very late 1st century to early 2nd century.
They were not contemporary.
Also, the biblical texts are not reliable, as we don't know who wrote them, and are not backed by any other piece of evidence. We can't even prove Jesus existed, much less fulfilled prophecies as there is no contemporary evidence for him at all.
All we have to go on is writings from historians that lived and worked in an era where the eyewitnesses would have been long dead (that goes for the Gospels too). All people like Josephus were able to report is the beliefs of early Christians, and no historical account of Jesus himself.
Your idea that God is uncaused is self-defeating because God, by definition, is caused by METAGOD.
A truth claim about the existence of something is a scientific question, therefore the scientific method applies.
You can make a hypothesis with anything you want, but the only way to definitively prove something exists is through hard, empirical evidence.
Well, but the problem is that you can´t simply define things into existence.
Or else I could postulate the existence of METAGOD - the entity that caused God. In which case God would be caused, by definition.
Your idea that God is uncaused is self-defeating because God, by definition, is caused by METAGOD.
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