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The shelter of the fold is not in CF.
There were ninety and nine that anxiously lay
Alongside attacks and jeers.
But one was out on the hills far away --
Which may be safer than here!
.Good question.
One possible solution that has been proposed already is to run 2 sites, one that is open, another that is Christians-only, based on the same membership data.
It's entirely possible. The previous version of CF is very similar, with 2 sections, one open and one close. The aim of the new system was to establish something like that but with members agreeing to do it themselves, but it hasn't worked out over the past month.
The ultimate aim would be to keep the good things of the recent changes such as moderator transparency, and see if we can formalise the wiki usage a bit more in a way that is acceptable (the wiki collaborative process is still the best process to get consensus for rules and guidelines).
There is no question that CF has 2 large groups of membership together, and to be honest, that is fantastic, because not many sites on the Internet are able to bring these 2 groups of people together into a place for discussion.
It is possible that Option 1 and Option 2 can be combined together into a middle ground of Option 3 since this is what the poll is really showing us (and I had hoped that the current CF setup would have been the Option 3, since it has elements of both, but apparently not). So the question is, if that's the answer (and I'm not saying it is at this stage), what would Option 3 look like?
It's a question that's does not have an easy answer.
I have said that there is a soul hanging in the balance right now. There is one person who has contributed greatly to New CF. I have posted a link. This person is an atheist who is now sporting a title that says, "I was a stranger and you took me in", and a signature that speaks of Christianity going into the darkest and neediest places. The seed has been planted because this person has been working side by side with Christians. When I told of this before, it was stated that there were more important things than "just" one soul. That is what I weep over.
Lisa
I think the teens can handle themselves...Because so many teens (and some pre-teens) are members, Options 2 is the safter one for them, IMO.
Ooops... please move accordingly, mods.
A New Dawn have I told you jsut how much I have found much resoect in you today? Just thought I would let you know that ....
It's tautological that new Christians don't have a close walk with the Lord. Option 1 proposes to convert them without it.If you are not safe, then, it is not the fault of atheists and it is not the fault of this site. Safety lies within a close walk with the Lord. It is a silly charge to credit your safety to anyone except God.
It's tautological that new Christians don't have a close walk with the Lord. Option 1 proposes to convert them without it.
So you'll get converts across the salvation line, but if they can't hang on it's not your fault, it's theirs.
Thank you! Finally some recognition!No I would describe you as more Pompous.
If it is Spiritual Blackmail, so be it. What a negative thing to say about one person who is burdened for another.
Lisa
Thank you! Finally some recognition!
Lisa, I apologize for before. Aside from being sick and tired of internet drama I am sick and tired in real life and shouldn't post when I have a fever. It makes me mouthy and grouchy. I should have made my point more charitably and not aimed at you in particular. I sincerely apologize. I won't post again until I can function like a normal human being.I strongly disagree. There is a special grace given to new converts. They are protected as the precious babes that they are. I do not understand how anyone cannot trust God to protect those who belong to Him.
Truly, no one can remove us from our Father's hand. It just cannot be done.
De-Conversions are likely the revelation that faith was not there to begin with.
Lisa
I would ask that you not put words in my mouth. That you are burdened for another is a heavy burden, and I cry that you care enough to be burdened. But, as has been mentioned many times, many have come to Christ under the old hated system, also. How do you judge this to be so much better when I know of oodles more that came under the old system? The fact that you don't have the joy in your heart for the others doesn't lessen the fact that the other system was just as successful. For that reason, my posts are just a suggestion that we try to leave specific personalities out of this. You trying to make me (us) feel guilty cheapens the discussion, and the same if I tried to do the same to you.
New Christians collapse -- especially from entanglements. Note the conditions in Mt 13.I strongly disagree. There is a special grace given to new converts. They are protected as the precious babes that they are. I do not understand how anyone cannot trust God to protect those who belong to Him.
Truly, no one can remove us from our Father's hand. It just cannot be done.
De-Conversions are likely the revelation that faith was not there to begin with.
Lisa, I apologize for before. Aside from being sick and tired of internet drama I am sick and tired in real life and shouldn't post when I have a fever. It makes me mouthy and grouchy. I should have made my point more charitably and not aimed at you in particular. I sincerely apologize. I won't post again until I can function like a normal human being.
That is like the goofiest movie ever created, but the song just rocks.
My 13 year old is a Christian member. I disagree. Proselytizing other religion or lack of is not cool, I would like him to have a safe place to fellowship..I think the teens can handle themselves...
This site at the moment is at a cross-roads, and can go either way. It can either become:
1. A safe social community site with a heavy and strong Christian influence (with the vision being to offer a safe online community, and a secondary vision being to allow Christians to outreach to non-Christians) - which will allow for a name change;
OR
2. Return to a more restricted Christians-only site with a heavy emphasis on uniting mainstream Christians only with a less emphasis on outreach, in which case we keep the name.
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