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<blockquote data-quote="USincognito" data-source="post: 74020177" data-attributes="member: 21511"><p>I'm going to go ahead and waste my time responding to this spam, so let's see what comes of it. </p><p></p><p></p><p>What in the world do you mean by "trend"? That makes no sense. And all of us know that for large changes to body plans, there will need to be a number of mutations. Why do you think you're telling anyone something they don't know? </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is false. Since populations evolve, not individuals or specific lineages, the mutations can happen in many different members of the population through time as long as they all fix. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Beneficial mutations happen less often than harmful and both of them happen less than neutral, but beneficial mutations do happen. And most of genomes are non-coding DNA. Those 3,000,000,000 bp only code about 30,000 genes and some of those are pseudogenes. Appealing to big numbers doesn't change the fact that we understand the process and have observed it happen though the eons by analyzing genomes. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This is false. You do not need a so-called "increase" in information in order for evolution to happen. </p><p>I have given you examples of increases in information: SRGAP2C, ARHGAP11B</p><p>I have given you pseudogenes that are evidence for common ancestry: GULOp</p><p>I have given you pseudogenes that changed form and function: Shh/Hand2. </p><p>It is dishonest and disingenuous to keep asking for examples of something I have already provided to you in spades. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And as I have told you three times now, your incredulity does not make this claim a fact. In fact given what we know about mutation and how many mutations offspring have that differentiate them from their parents, descent <strong><em>without</em></strong> modification is impossible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="USincognito, post: 74020177, member: 21511"] I'm going to go ahead and waste my time responding to this spam, so let's see what comes of it. What in the world do you mean by "trend"? That makes no sense. And all of us know that for large changes to body plans, there will need to be a number of mutations. Why do you think you're telling anyone something they don't know? This is false. Since populations evolve, not individuals or specific lineages, the mutations can happen in many different members of the population through time as long as they all fix. Beneficial mutations happen less often than harmful and both of them happen less than neutral, but beneficial mutations do happen. And most of genomes are non-coding DNA. Those 3,000,000,000 bp only code about 30,000 genes and some of those are pseudogenes. Appealing to big numbers doesn't change the fact that we understand the process and have observed it happen though the eons by analyzing genomes. This is false. You do not need a so-called "increase" in information in order for evolution to happen. I have given you examples of increases in information: SRGAP2C, ARHGAP11B I have given you pseudogenes that are evidence for common ancestry: GULOp I have given you pseudogenes that changed form and function: Shh/Hand2. It is dishonest and disingenuous to keep asking for examples of something I have already provided to you in spades. And as I have told you three times now, your incredulity does not make this claim a fact. In fact given what we know about mutation and how many mutations offspring have that differentiate them from their parents, descent [B][I]without[/I][/B] modification is impossible. [/QUOTE]
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