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Long sigh.

Oh spare me. When you can address what I've already posted then you feign exasperation.

When will you explain how mutations add up?

I asked you to clarify what you mean by this because it's so vague as to be meaningless. Again, are you asking for specific lists of mytations or what?


Copy and pasting an appeal to incredulity is not an indication that you understand the points I have already made nor does it clarify the vague question you are asking.
 
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You see USincognito, for a trend to evolve lots of mutations are required. In the animals progeny a second, third, fourth..etc....mutation has to occur in the organisms DNA that effects the evolving trend in a way that it enhances the fitness of the trend. Considering the large size of the DNA (3-3.5 billion base pairs in humans) and the extreme rarity of so called beneficial mutations the ability for the information to increase and the trend to evolve...especially to the level of complexity and sophistication we see today renders descent with modification impossible.
 
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Ok little buddy.

Let me know when you have something more than a creo video and a bible. The entire whole of academia might be interested.
 
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Genesis 1:27-30

29Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every seed-bearing plant on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit contains seed. They will be yours for food. 30And to every beast of the earth and every bird of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth—everything that has the breath of life in it—I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.…

There were no carnivores before the fall.

After the fall of mankind, everything on earth was adversely effected (including the earth itself) and became subject to corruption and violence.

Genesis 6

11Now the earth was corrupt in the sight of God, and full of violence. 12And God looked upon the earth and saw that it was corrupt; for all living creatures on the earth had corrupted their ways.

The point of the flood was to end violence/corruption on earth that was going on at that time.

Genesis 6

13Then God said to Noah, “The end of all living creatures has come before Me, because through them the earth is full of violence. Now behold, I will destroy both them and the earth.

Genesis 6

19And you are to bring two of every living thing into the ark—male and female—to keep them alive with you. 20Two of every kind of bird and animal and crawling creature will come to you to be kept alive. 21You are also to take for yourself every kind of food that is eaten and gather it as food for yourselves and for the animals.”

God sent to Noah all the land animals He wanted to survive the flood and the land dinosaurs were not among them and therefore were destroyed in the flood.

All what the Lord wanted to be destroyed in the flood, in fact were destroyed.
 
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Ararat was a post flood event.
But it must have formed immediately after the flood in order for the Ark to land on it, right? So a volcano more than 16,000 ft high with a volume of 280 cubic miles formed and cooled down in a span of about 200 days. Plausible?
 
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But it must have formed immediately after the flood in order for the Ark to land on it, right? So a volcano more than 16,000 ft high with a volume of 280 cubic miles formed and cooled down in a span of about 200 days. Plausible?

Can you quote me where the bible says the ark landed on Mt Ararat?
 
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There are other forums for preaching.
 
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Can you quote me where the bible says the ark landed on Mt Ararat?
Is that a trick question? Genesis 8:4: "And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat". The Ararat massif consists of several peaks, so "mountains" is not wrong.
 
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Is that a trick question? Genesis 8:4: "And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat". The Ararat massif consists of several peaks, so "mountains" is not wrong.

It seems to me that landing at the base of the mountains would count as landing on the mountains.
 
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It seems to me that landing at the base of the mountains would count as landing on the mountains.
I wonder why it matters so badly to academia where the Ark landed?

(Actually I don't.)
 
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It seems to me that landing at the base of the mountains would count as landing on the mountains.
Maybe, but then according to the bible that means that all water tens of thousand feet deep must have dried away in a week. Plausible?
 
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I should call you Mr Bojangles as you're dancing nicely around the question.
I think we can all agree that you've done nothing but show a colossal misunderstanding of ToE. So what's next?

Maybe you should start a thread where you show that NASA is lying, and satellites don't exist?
 
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Maybe, but then according to the bible that means that all water tens of thousand feet deep must have dried away in a week. Plausible?

Plausible, no, but when magic is involved, you can get away with anything. The whole flood thing is implausible. If you accept the flood for the sake of argument in the first place, you should be flexible with the details.
 
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Maybe, but then according to the bible that means that all water tens of thousand feet deep must have dried away in a week. Plausible?
We're dealing with entirely two different epistemologies, and never the twain shall meet.

We expect them to value reasoned evidence, and they expect us to accept a myth. It's apples to oranges, and on it goes...
 
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We're dealing with entirely two different epistemologies, and never the twain shall meet.

We expect them to value reasoned evidence, and they expect us to accept a myth. It's apples to oranges, and on it goes...
I think it is more akin to comparing prokaryotes to eukaryotes, and the prokaryotes are extremophiles.
 
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