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Ask the New Agey, Tree-Huggin Hippie!

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dlamberth

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I've never had my own "ask me" thread, so I figured I'd face the board and take on your questions. No question is too big or too small, and I'll do my best to keep up. *pulls up a beanbag chair and some knitting* :wave:
Tree Huggin, I get. I'm a tree hugger myself. Hippie I get, I was a teen in the 60's where we had Love In's and have been to many, many Grateful Dead and now Further concerts.

But "New Age", I've never been able to figure that one out. I believe that I have a pretty wide experience of various spiritual traditions, yet I still can't figure out what "New Age" is. Can you help with that please?

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Hi, dlamberth! New Age is a pretty broad term that is difficult to sum up in one definition. I consider my spirituality more New Age than Pagan. I'm not big on ritual, but I do rely on meditation and sensing energy in living objects. I also dabble in herbalism and a holistic approach to health, within reason. I think, for me, being New Age is about being conscientious about the world around us, trying to put ourselves in other people's shoes and being good stewards of the earth. I also feel there is a common thread that binds us all as citizens of the earth, and that is our humanity.
 
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Ok I don't know how much boating you've done, but I can't see those being useful while boating. Why are they called boating socks?

Next up, I do the herbal / holistic health thing. Medical science would say not within reason at all. According to them I should've died slightly before you were born, and haven't been to a Doctor in almost 20 years. So I think herbs are good, and don't much care what they think about it.

I also have always sensed the energies of living things and meditate. What makes any of this "new" in new age?
 
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The Wikipedia article on the topic is really enlightening with regards to the origins of the term.

I suppose there'll be different ways of defining what exactly is "new" about New Age, but I'm confident that Kat has her own answer to that.

Interestingly enough, I myself usually use the term in a slightly derogatory fashion, denoting things like plastic shamanism, the commercialized "self help"-market, and the sort of books that are either obviously bogus or designed to make a quick buck (think yourself rich, UFO implants oscillating on "higher energy levels", 2012 is REALLY IMPORTANT, channelled messages from "ascended masters" telling people that they'll be immortal as soon as they learn to persist on a diet of sunlight, indigo/rainbow/crystal children as an explanation for ADHS et.al. I guess you get the drift. And I hope I haven't just suffered a severe case of foot-in-mouth disease because you're into any of that stuff, Kat... ;))
 
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I do rely on meditation and sensing energy in living objects.

Please expand on your use of the word "energy". I don't think I've ever quite understood what New Agers mean by this. In your view, what is it?


eudaimonia,

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Please expand on your use of the word "energy". I don't think I've ever quite understood what New Agers mean by this. In your view, what is it?


eudaimonia,

Mark

Hey, Mark :) The energy that all living entities produce can be felt by anyone, but most people don't readily identify it as such. A book I once read described it best - it's the feeling you get when you're scared/anxious/excited and you get what most people refer to as "butterflies in your stomach". That's energy welling up inside your body. If I, say, touch a tomato plant in my garden I may be able to feel slight (or strong, depending on a number of factors) vibrations coming from the plant against my palm. This isn't a supernatural experience, as the energy is already there within the living subject; however, the vibrations are usually so subtle that you really have to be "looking" for them in order to feel them. Sometimes it is a pulsing sensation or a tickle or, if it's a weak energy, like cobwebs against my hand.

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I also have always sensed the energies of living things and meditate. What makes any of this "new" in new age?

Good morning, Raze :wave: Honestly? There isn't anything New Age about herbalism or meditation, as that's been done for centuries. What tends to make it more modern is how we interpret and put into practice these ancient methods of healing and relaxation and how, since the 1960s or so, there has been a resurgence of the practices.

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And I hope I haven't just suffered a severe case of foot-in-mouth disease because you're into any of that stuff, Kat

No worries, Wicked Willow ;). I don't follow any of those teachings. The only one that even slightly piques my interest would be Indigo/Rainbow/Crystal Children, only because I think there are many kids in the world who are undeniably bright and different and they're oftentimes misdiagnosed as ADHD or Autistic and put on medications that alter their personality and stifle their giftedness. Not saying Autism and ADHD aren't legitimate disorders, because they are. I'm not even anti-medication. With that said, I think there are many children out there being suppressed by medication that they don't necessarily need to be on due to a hasty diagnosis being made.

Ugh, and fake Shamanism. That one really gets me. A few months ago there was a girl on another site I belong to claiming she's a Shaman and does psychic readings over the phone for a "small fee". :doh:
 
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The only one that even slightly piques my interest would be Indigo/Rainbow/Crystal Children, only because I think there are many kids in the world who are undeniably bright and different and they're oftentimes misdiagnosed as ADHD or Autistic and put on medications that alter their personality and stifle their giftedness. Not saying Autism and ADHD aren't legitimate disorders, because they are. I'm not even anti-medication. With that said, I think there are many children out there being suppressed by medication that they don't necessarily need to be on due to a hasty diagnosis being made.

Good thought! The older of my Sisters has 2 such sons. She literally spent all the income from her career on their private education. It worked out really well. Not sure how "Indigo/Rainbow/Crystal Children" refers to though.
 
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How do you stop the sap getting all over you when you hug trees?

I can't prevent it beforehand, but sap can be treated with butter. Of course, any time I think of sap I think of the scene in "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation" when Clark cuts the ties off that enormous tree and he's in there, "looks great! Little full, lot of sap". And the entire time he's in bed trying to read that magazine the pages are sticking to his fingers.
 
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Hi, dlamberth! New Age is a pretty broad term that is difficult to sum up in one definition. I consider my spirituality more New Age than Pagan. I'm not big on ritual, but I do rely on meditation and sensing energy in living objects. I also dabble in herbalism and a holistic approach to health, within reason. I think, for me, being New Age is about being conscientious about the world around us, trying to put ourselves in other people's shoes and being good stewards of the earth. I also feel there is a common thread that binds us all as citizens of the earth, and that is our humanity.

In thinking about what you wrote, and knowing what I know, it seems that everything you wrote here is known and experienced by the mystics of the different spiritual traditions, Christianity included. So I’m not seeing anything new being advanced. That’s part of what I’m not getting with the “New Age” movement.

What’s new as far as I understand it (and I know I’m being critical of the New Age movement here) is what I’m perceiving as a narcissistic and money focus trajectory deeply embedded within that movement. And it seems to me that when ones inner life is all about ones self and money, that the spiritual awareness and inner experience of the Oneness of life gets lost in the mix. That’s the other part I’m not getting with the “New Age” movement.

It also seems to me that the Divine is not for sale. It can’t be sold and it can’t be bought. If true, and I believe it is, than what IS being sold in the New Age movement? I don’t understand that either.

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Hi, dlamberth. I'm actually thinking a lot about how others view the term New Age, and I'm beginning to wonder if, perhaps, I'm not so much "New Age" as I am simply "spiritual".
That could be.

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What’s new as far as I understand it (and I know I’m being critical of the New Age movement here) is what I’m perceiving as a narcissistic and money focus trajectory deeply embedded within that movement.

My impression is that this "prosperity gospel" found in such sources as The Secret stems mainly from New Thought, and isn't really the heart or soul of the New Age movement. I don't think that New Agers should all be lumped in with them. They should no more be blamed than Christians should be blamed for their own prosperity gospel faction.


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My impression is that this "prosperity gospel" found in such sources as The Secret stems mainly from New Thought, and isn't really the heart or soul of the New Age movement. I don't think that New Agers should all be lumped in with them. They should no more be blamed than Christians should be blamed for their own prosperity gospel faction.


eudaimonia,

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OK, so what IS the heart and soul of the New Age movement? I still can't figure it out.

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