"Ask for Death!"

[ballfan]

No, I don’t think I will. I think when it comes to violent atrocities. I think it would be best if I were proven to be in support of them. This guilty until proven innocent thing you’re trying to do, very Christian mind you, is a poor precedent to set.

All you had to do was type. That you would refuse to condemm such acts is incomprehensible.

 

[praying]

I'm not holding this up as an example of Islam - I'm holding this up as an example of "palestinians" and their sick culture of death.

It is an example of just how depraved people are.

With new weapons that are lightweight and easy to fire, children are more easily armed, with less training than ever before. Worldwide, more than half a million children under-18 have been recruited into government armed forces, paramilitaries, civil militia and a wide variety of non-state armed groups in more than 85 countries. At any one time, more than 300,000 of these children are actively fighting as soldiers with government armed forces or armed political groups.
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[JustOneWay]

All you had to do was type. That you would refuse to condemm such acts is incomprehensible.

You prove his point while avoiding his statement. Black and white thinking will yield little understanding.

 

[MachZer0]

You prove his point while avoiding his statement. Black and white thinking will yield little understanding.

But supporting violent atrocities will?

 

[ballfan]

You prove his point while avoiding his statement. Black and white thinking will yield little understanding.

No. What I'm asking about can only be condemmed. Its not a subject to be political on or to have understanding as to why on. Suicide bombing and using children in this way is just plain wrong. Nothing right about it. And it seems "good" men can't bring themselves to condemm it for maybe their own petty reasons.

 

[utdbear]

Really? I thought Jesus said not to give false witness. Not that I expect professing Christians to have anything in common with Jesus. In the absence of professed support for anything I think the wise course would be to assume nothing.

Giving an accusation based on what I do know(which from what is available, implies you do believe suicide bombing is OK) isn't bearing false witness. Knowing you don't and telling everybody you do is bearing false witness. It's a pretty simple concept. You sure do talk down to people a lot, considering you don't know much. You might want to rethink that policy, its not working too well.

 

[Alabaster]

No. What I'm asking about can only be condemmed. Its not a subject to be political on or to have understanding as to why on. Suicide bombing and using children in this way is just plain wrong. Nothing right about it. And it seems "good" men can't bring themselves to condemm it for maybe their own petty reasons.

I think I am not supporting anything of the sort unless I ******support it*******.

Shocking I know, but if you want someone who will jump through hoops for you, you could get a poodle, or possibly a porpoise, though it would be harder to walk on a leash.

As it is, guilty until proven innocent is just silly, but if you would like to adopt that position, please feel free.

 

[Alabaster]

Giving an accusation based on what I do know(which from what is available, implies you do believe suicide bombing is OK) isn't bearing false witness. Knowing you don't and telling everybody you do is bearing false witness. It's a pretty simple concept. You sure do talk down to people a lot, considering you don't know much. You might want to rethink that policy, its not working too well.

Really? Well tell me "what is available" that "implies believe suicide bombing is OK."

I would love to see.

 

[dignitized]

It is an example of just how depraved people are.

With new weapons that are lightweight and easy to fire, children are more easily armed, with less training than ever before. Worldwide, more than half a million children under-18 have been recruited into government armed forces, paramilitaries, civil militia and a wide variety of non-state armed groups in more than 85 countries. At any one time, more than 300,000 of these children are actively fighting as soldiers with government armed forces or armed political groups.
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You know though - there is a difference recruiting kids to fight, and recruiting kids to kill themselves.

 

[Wolf Georges]

No. What I'm asking about can only be condemmed. Its not a subject to be political on or to have understanding as to why on. Suicide bombing and using children in this way is just plain wrong. Nothing right about it. And it seems "good" men can't bring themselves to condemm it for maybe their own petty reasons.

Seems like his reason maybe that he feels he is being judged and that he does not feel he should make statements simply because he is being pushed to.

Considering the fact that he refers to these acts as "violent atrocities" it would seem that he views them negatively.

There seems to be nothing in his posts to imply that he supported these acts.

 

[k]

The tones in the video are exactly the same tones some Americans use to defend the Imperial actions in Iraq...so what's the problem?

 

[ballfan]

Seems like his reason maybe that he feels he is being judged and that he does not feel he should make statements simply because he is being pushed to.

Considering the fact that he refers to these acts as "violent atrocities" it would seem that he views them negatively.

There seems to be nothing in his posts to imply that he supported these acts.

Like some other posters here, if this were Americans doing these things, Alabasters condemnation would be loud, thourgh, unhesitate and neverending.

Why not that reaction with this?

BTW, where did he ever call them "violent atrocities"?

I see where Mach Zero did, but not Alabaster.

 

[Alabaster]

Like some other posters here, if this were Americans doing these things, Alabasters condemnation would be loud, thourgh, unhesitate and neverending.

Why not that reaction with this?

BTW, where did he ever call them "violent atrocities"?

I see where Mach Zero did, but not Alabaster.

Post 17. Read more, talk less.

 

[JustOneWay]

But supporting violent atrocities will?

Nobody said they supported violent atrocities.

 

[JustOneWay]

No. What I'm asking about can only be condemmed. Its not a subject to be political on or to have understanding as to why on. Suicide bombing and using children in this way is just plain wrong. Nothing right about it. And it seems "good" men can't bring themselves to condemm it for maybe their own petty reasons.

Condemned, only in your point of view.(edited....with apologies)

You need to take a closer look at his stance. He has more of an issue with your attitude than you are willing to admit.

I condemn people using children as suicide bombers equally to soldiers invading other countries and killing innocent men, women and children. Wrong is wrong.

 

[ballfan]

Post 17. Read more, talk less.

Ah yes, the answer to the post where you were given the chance to condemm these actions. The one in which you said-

" No, I don’t think I will."

I stand by what I said--

"Like some other posters here, if this were Americans doing these things, Alabasters condemnation would be loud, thourgh, unhesitate and neverending."

 

[praying]

You know though - there is a difference recruiting kids to fight, and recruiting kids to kill themselves.

There is a difference you are correct but unlike the Islamic kids who are recruited (and I am by no means condoning the action) most of the other children aren't recruited at all, they are forced to fight.

 

[dignitized]

There is a difference you are correct but unlike the Islamic kids who are recruited (and I am by no means condoning the action) most of the other children aren't recruited at all, they are forced to fight.

OKay well - it's not exactly like the palestinian kids are asked - Hey would you like to do this? out of the blue. There is serious brain washing that happens first.

 

[praying]

OKay well - it's not exactly like the palestinian kids are asked - Hey would you like to do this? out of the blue. There is serious brain washing that happens first.

I thinnk it is all reprehensible.

My point was that using children is not inidcative of Islam unfortunatley it is a widespread practice, always has been.

 

[dignitized]

I thinnk it is all reprehensible.

My point was that using children is not inidcative of Islam unfortunatley it is a widespread practice, always has been.

no it is not limited to islam - but no one can deny that THIS is a particularly heinous example. The only example I can think of that comes close is that of the Janissaries of the Ottoman empire.