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The Earth would have to become more dense, or more massive, neither of which are particularly likely.

Actually, if present trends continue, almost everyone will weigh over 500 lbs.

Gods word can make a murderer love instead of hate. Gods power is real. A monkey showing some intelligence doesn't surprise me. But God does, he is real.
Christians positing a God who showed some intelligence would surprise me!

 
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Gods word can make a murderer love instead of hate.
Then why doesn't he?

Gods power is real. A monkey showing some intelligence doesn't surprise me. But God does, he is real.
Can you demonstrate this?

You are correct, just because we beleive in God doesnt show his inteligence. Yet a murderer still loves and a monkey is still only a monkey. All people are wrong sometimes, yet God is not.
People are indeed wrong. But the facts remain: the theory of common descent ('evolution') is correct.

I am happy to discuss the reasons why this is so.

I think beleiving in monkeys evolving into more than they are is wrong. They've had a long time now to show it and have not, a monkey in the jungle remains only a monkey.
If a monkey became anything other than a monkey, that would disprove evolution. If that confuses you, then this rather soundly proves you don't actually understand evolution - though I am happy to explain how it works.

A human in the jungle shows that there is inteligence within that human. After all we don't live in the jungle anymore. Why focus on a monkey when Gods mysteries are to be solved?
Because it is not clear that either God or his mysteries actually exist. Moreover, studying evolution provides tangible results - unlike studying theology.

How does the bible make a murderer love when the world cannot?
Can you demonstrate that this actually happens?
 
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And I'm not smarter than a 5th grader. *lol*

Can we please take any debates elsewhere though?

Thank you.
With all due respect, I'm happy to keep such discussions here. After all, this thread is about asking a physicist anything.
 
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I have heard that Einstein did believe in God, however after reading his own words i must say that Einstein did believe in a God that controlled the laws of physics, just not a personal God that cares for us individually. But then again he didn't take time to know God either, physics was his God. I was wrong, Ive heard that he believed and assumed it meant Jesus, yet this is no so. Its interesting though that he did not dismiss god altogether, after all, there are many questions he could not answer. I wonder how smart he would be if he took time to know God as much as physics. Anyways, my daily humility is full. Saying someone is dumb, not smarter than a fifth grader is not logical, especially if that person is smarter than a fifth grader.. But then again neither is challenging a physicist if you're not one.
 
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Here's a quote provided by wikiquote with reference:
Another: Perhaps the most straightforward:
 
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i could easily demonstrate how a murderer is changed by God word, there are many who been changed by it. Can you demonstrate how a black hole works or time space just as easily? Like i said, I'm done i only wanted to answer that question. My apologies, seriously. I love my God as much as you love physics and i get carried away sometimes. Forgive me for intruding.
 
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You put down many words, i would like to answer it all as much as i can.

I was not saying that a monkey in remaining only a monkey disproves evolution. Only that people continue to look at monkeys as if they will evolve in some way, trying to teach them to be more human like after man has already evolved, not physically but intellectually. And i was submitting Gods love that others learn as proof that his word is worth something and yet monkeys is all that science is interested in and not the human who ceases to hate and murder by Gods word.

I myself am my own witness to Gods power to make people love., once i would have said many hateful words. But not now. I guess my thinking that i alone am right is wrong also, Gods word tells me this, and i don't use hateful words as i once did because i fear God and need him, not because I'm better than another person, God makes it clear that i am not. How can i think about love instead of hate if God doesn't exist? What makes me say I'm wrong when i want to be right? Gods power does this, not me. I am not good just like the bible says, yet now i try to love. This is not easy and i could not do this on my own, trust me. If god were not real and his word were not true, i would have given up by now. I would have hated and made fun of your ideas with much hate, Ive done this before as we all have, yet this man learns to love where a monkey could not. Without God i am just a hateful man.
 
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