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Excuse me while I let my curmudgeonly side out for a bit.

Dagda said:
I've read a little about their belief in magic on websites, but I never quite got the impression of whether they really felt as though it worked as a tangible reality.

To be perfectly honest, I tend to think that 80% or better of most websites on the topic of magic are put up by people who tend to like talking about magic a heck of a lot more than they actually work magic. (On my more self-critical days, I'd include myself in that group, too.) There are obviously going to be exceptions, but there are also a lot of websites that aren't exceptions either.

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It's kind of cool that they can use something like that to have some control.

Hrm...not sure I like that word, "control." It implies a lot of things that I just don't think are true. Personally, I think buying into the illusion that you are in control can lead to all kinds of problems.

Having said that, one who can learn to work effective magic has a lot of influence. They can do things that can really change their and others' current circumstances. The really smart ones learn how to do this with amazing finesse and grace (and I can only hope that I will be counted among their number decades from now).

The down side to that is that with magic, one can really change their and others' circumstances. Thing is, not all changes are for the better, and not all changes that "look good" at first look as great upon closer inspection. Changing the world around you (even on a small scale) can be great, but making sure you leave it in a better state than you originally found it in can be a ponderous responsibility.
 
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pensive said:
The down side to that is that with magic, one can really change their and others' circumstances. Thing is, not all changes are for the better, and not all changes that "look good" at first look as great upon closer inspection. Changing the world around you (even on a small scale) can be great, but making sure you leave it in a better state than you originally found it in can be a ponderous responsibility.

Thank you for pointing this out. I have been trying to explain to someone I am somewhat mentoring about energies, the very thing you just said. It is not small thing to work to change your circumstances because you can influence those around you in a way that might harm them by helping you. It takes patience and diligence before deciding to influence the energies around you to insure you have proper insight and that not only will none be harmed by your efforts but all will be blessed. Sometimes people new to this idea don't get the full spectrum of the responsibilities before them. Thank you for your insightful post and bringing it in such a way I can now say to her so easily what I couldn't before.

May your day be blessed with love and joy,
Casi
 
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pensive said:
Ack! Two Virgos?! That just may be too much Earth sign around here for this Gemini! :D


Hehehe, Leo here.

Would anyone here know whether your birthstone is significant in using during any cerimony or cleansing or can it be what you choose. This was a question on another forum and I was not satisfied that they answered it.

Also, how much of your dedication include if any Native American Spiritualism and ritual?
 
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Clem is Me said:
Why bother being a pagan?

To answer the call of the gods.
To experience the joy and terror of the Mysteries. (Granted, this is more geared towards Wicca and other mystery religions rather than Paganism in general.)
To enhance the celebration of life itself.

Those are just a few answers that occur to me off the top of my head. It's by no means an exhaustive list.
 
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pensive said:
To answer the call of the gods.
To experience the joy and terror of the Mysteries. (Granted, this is more geared towards Wicca and other mystery religions rather than Paganism in general.)
To enhance the celebration of life itself.

Those are just a few answers that occur to me off the top of my head. It's by no means an exhaustive list.

Why not just enjoy life for what it is? let the Gods enjoy each other, if they exist. There are more than enough mysteries in reality, I would think. What is the point of all the rest of it?
 
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Clem is Me said:
Why not just enjoy life for what it is? let the Gods enjoy each other, if they exist. There are more than enough mysteries in reality, I would think. What is the point of all the rest of it?

Because, after experiencing the Divine to such an extent, as I personally have, to turn my back upon honoring the Divine and everything they created, would be like purposefully putting a hole in my spirit. It likens to losing a dearly loved one and never feeling complete again. I couldn't imagine being spiritually bankrupt as I'm sure you are unable to comprehend my experiences - of being completely, joyously, spiritually fulfilled. :)

Bright Blessings,
Krysia
 
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