juvenissun
... and God saw that it was good.
- Apr 5, 2007
- 25,452
- 805
- 72
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Baptist
- Marital Status
- Married
Because they (we) are human after all. Many of God's people are attracted and never returned.
Upvote
0
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
If they are his people, why would other things besides him attract them?
So God deliberately hides the truth. Saying that God does not lie, then, seems to just be a kind of sneaky lawyer trick.
No. David. God gives egregious sinners 'over' to the Power of Lies... In each of these instances, He's not the one doing the lying.
So God gives up on sinners and lets them continue to spiral down into 'sinnery'?No. David. God gives egregious sinners 'over' to the Power of Lies... In each of these instances, He's not the one doing the lying.
I'd like to offer some more perspective on this. John 12:35 suggests that when He sacrificed His perfect ability to physically speak the truth on earth, and in His place He left faulty men described by Matthew 20:28, that the real sacrifice was to wait going on 2,000 years before the world would be redeemed - knowing that in the meantime the truth would be suppressed and the rule of God's kingdom contended, as He described in Luke 19:14. On the other hand, we can consider that if He had brought forward Armageddon to the day of reckoning (Matthew 26:53), He could have avoided a ton of suffering and devastation. So the real extent of His sacrifice is much greater than we naturally tend imagine at first.And how much of a sacrifice was it since He was only dead for three days and then returned better than ever, eating fish and feeling no pain?
In Exodus 34:14, it says "Forthou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God".
If God is the one and only God, then to whom is he Jealous of?
Seeing that you know about this: Is there a date or trigger for when Jesus is supposed to do his second coming?I'd like to offer some more perspective on this. John 12:35 suggests that when He sacrificed His perfect ability to physically speak the truth on earth, and in His place He left faulty men described by Matthew 20:28, that the real sacrifice was to wait going on 2,000 years before the world would be redeemed - knowing that in the meantime the truth would be suppressed and the rule of God's kingdom contended, as He described in Luke 19:14. On the other hand, we can consider that if He had brought forward Armageddon to the day of reckoning (Matthew 26:53), He could have avoided a ton of suffering and devastation. So the real extent of His sacrifice is much greater than we naturally tend imagine at first.
What was your intended purpose for this thread? IOW, what motivated you to do this?
Thanks. It is nice for you to have done this. Juvenissun said something that spoke to me, which would not have happened otherwise.I started this thread in the hopes of providing an arena wherein I could address, systematically, questions that I knew people wanted to put to me which up until now, I was unable for sundry reasons, to worthily address.
Hypothetically, if your allegedly all-powerful-all-knowing deity observes a child being raped, and has the ability to interfere, would you hold it responsible for standing by, allowing it to happen, and saying nothing to anyone about it? Does your morality say that it should have interfered?
So it's like a contract killer kind of thing: I don't actually do the killing, so my conscience is clear. God doesn't lie; he just leaves you in a room with a liar. Seriously, you honestly think that this is in anyway making your deity out to be good by any definition? Think about it a little more carefully, please.
So God gives up on sinners and lets them continue to spiral down into 'sinnery'?
Can Christian moral/ethics guide a decision in the trolley problem to a correct choice?
Lazy god. Terrible leader. Cannot even convince people to change. Falls back on punishment. Why would anybody chose to adore someone like that?Conditionally, yes. Those sinners who development particularly hard cases of impenitence, God may decide to hand over to the Realm of Folly. Again, sad but true...
It is not a surprise that even men are advocating for women to be protected from these patriarchal views.
kids that are brainwashed at church to bigot and hate.
Further, I freely advocate the end of religion because I can see how much hate it fosters in the nation. We are so advanced yet homosexuals are still segregated.
Churches accumulate millions and do not pay taxes.
They spend on megachurches and fancy clothes when the children starve.
What is inaccurate about the caricature?If you want to caricature the situation that way, you may... But, I wouldn't say it is accurate, David.
Correct.(By the way, since you and I are in an conversation that extends from one begun between me and Eudaimonist, I assume you know the reference(s) in Scripture upon which we are focused at the present moment, correct?)
Could he not have been recognized because in addition to the his crucifixion wounds, he retained his disfigurements from the Roman whips, head scares from the thorns, etc.?
Though not recorded in the sacred texts, I've read it plausible Jesus may have sustained other wounds and disfigurements on the path to Golgotha.
Why are you a christian?
If this has already been asked and answered, my apologies.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?