Army Cuts Off More Than 60K Unvaccinated Guard and Reserve Soldiers from Pay and Benefits

[ThisIsMe123]

Army Cuts Off More Than 60K Unvaccinated Guard and Reserve Soldiers from Pay and Benefits

Yep, that's what you get!

 

[Rachel20]

That's what who gets? Soldiers who didn't take a jab that's no longer effective, doesn't prevent transmission, infection, hospitalization, or death?

 

[ThisIsMe123]

That's what who gets? Soldiers who didn't take a jab that's no longer effective, doesn't prevent transmission, infection, hospitalization, or death?

That's what you get for not following orders.

 

[renniks]

In a time when less people are signing up for the military this is incredibly stupid.
Everyone got exposed to covid in the military. Guaranteed.. and no one was dying before the mandatory vaccines.

 

[Rachel20]

That's what you get for not following orders.

That's not what this guy got -

Navy officer who refused COVID vaccine cleared of wrongdoing

 

[ThisIsMe123]

In a time when less people are signing up for the military this is incredibly stupid.
Everyone got exposed to covid in the military. Guaranteed.. and no one was dying before the mandatory vaccines.

Shoot back in my day, my dad's day etc. We lined up for vaccines in our arms. Back when the Anthrax vaccine was experimental, you had to receive it.

No one questioned vaccines back then. We live in a society of pansies.

 

[Rachel20]

No one questioned vaccines back then. We live in a society of pansies.

Sounds like you didn't question, and took the covid jab like a good little conformist

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Sounds like you didn't question, and took the covid jab like a good little conformist

I didn't conform, I knew the science and did it for myself. For me.

 

[Rachel20]

I didn't conform, I knew the science and did it for myself. For me.

ah, so you took it for you, because you were afraid of covid. And you call the soldiers pansies. Got it.

 

[renniks]

Shoot back in my day, my dad's day etc. We lined up for vaccines in our arms. Back when the Anthrax vaccine was experimental, you had to receive it.

No one questioned vaccines back then. We live in a society of pansies.

No.. we live in a society that no longer trusts the government to do the right thing.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

ah, so you took it for you, because you were afraid of covid. And you call the soldiers pansies. Got it.

Of course I was afraid of Covid. I had good reason to be.

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Sounds like you didn't question, and took the covid jab like a good little conformist

Funny, I work in a field where I speak with non-conformists every day. I take their fines that they get cited for some wrong doing when they break an ordinance.

I had one guy grumble, whine that he had to pay fees on an offence, I say nothing and he says, "I bet you can tell I'm anti-govt"

I just smiled and told him, "That'll be XXX dollars,sir!"!

That's where being a non-conformist gets you.

 

[Rachel20]

Funny, I work in a field where I speak with non-conformists every day. I take their fines that they get cited for some wrong doing when they break an ordinance.

I had one guy grumble, whine that he had to pay fees on an offence, I say nothing and he says, "I bet you can tell I'm anti-govt"

I just smiled and told him, "That'll be XXX dollars,sir!"!

That's where being a non-conformist gets you.

Tell that to Rosa Parks

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2

 

[ThisIsMe123]

Tell that to Rosa Parks

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2

That Bible quote has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Hate it when people quote the Bible out of context to frame it in a way that they think is making a point.

You're blowing this way out of proportion. Follow the rules, otherwise suffer the consequences, like getting kicked out of the National Guard.

Better yet, never join the National Guard, then you'll never have to worry about not "conforming"

 

[RileyG]

I'm not sure how I feel about this...

 

[ThisIsMe123]

I'm not sure how I feel about this...

Well, just don't join the National Guard, then there's nothing to be concerned about.

 

[RileyG]

Well, just don't join the National Guard, then there's nothing to be concerned about.

that's true...and I don't plan to

 

[Rachel20]

That Bible quote has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Hate it when people quote the Bible out of context to frame it in a way that they think is making a point.

You're blowing this way out of proportion. Follow the rules, otherwise suffer the consequences, like getting kicked out of the National Guard.

Better yet, never join the National Guard, then you'll never have to worry about not "conforming"

I think you understood the point of the Bible quote: not all non-conformity is bad.

And if you bothered to read the link I posted in #5, you would have seen the mandate for military members was unlawful. You can't make jabs under EUA mandatory to the military - only those that are FDA approved. Everyone still thinks the Pfizer jabs are approved, but it's the Corminaty that was approved, and it's not the one they were/are jabbing the military with.

"During the hearings, Younts argued that the COVID-19 vaccine mandate for U.S. military service members was not lawful, and reportedly highlighted that the military failed to make available the FDA-approved version of the vaccine."

 

[IceJad]

The vaccines are not effective. That is a fact. It doesn't give you long term immunity. It doesn't however reduce the severity of the infection. A know of people who caught COVID19 after they have been vaccinated.

That being said COVID19 is not particularly deadly in its current variant. Even in the earlier variants the death rate is in the low percentage while higher than most common cold. There are people who recovered naturally from the virus when there were no vaccine.

I don't get the need to force people to take the vaccine, while personally I would highly encourage it. What happened to my body my choice?

There is always the argument that if you're vaccinated why fear those who aren't? Unless of course the vaccine is not as effective as you would hope it to be.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Isn't the US having trouble getting men into the army? On a purely practical level, at a time when you might potentially be entering into war with Russia or China, why would you deliberately harm your military capacity because of unwillingness to get a vaccine?