Are you Pro-Choice or Pro-Life?

[MrLogic]

Dont you believe Christianity is right? Why should you argue agianst that? Im not attacking you, Im simply asking..

Just because he is Christian, that does not mean that he is bound to the Christian box (as I like to call it). Maybe he has gotten out of the box and seen the other boxes. (Which is weird, usually, you become a atheist when you go out the box) Maybe he is a Christian because of tradition or because he was grown in it and never changed it. I don't know. But you should try that sometime. Oh and FYI, Christianity is one of the most messed up religions there is. You wanna know why? You only have to do one thing, read the Bible. Both old and new testaments. And if you have any humanity in you, you'll become an atheist.

 

[quatona]

Dont you believe Christianity is right? Why should you argue agianst that? Im not attacking you, Im simply asking..

Some people recognize a poor argument even if it´s brought up in favour of something they believe in. An ability that I personally appreciate highly.

 

[LovesEnduringPromise]

As a conclusion to all this, Im not comming back on this topic, seeing as nothing I say to you makes sense. Ill be praying for you all...God bless.

 

[TuxThePenguin]

seeing as nothing I say to you makes sense.

Quoted for truth

 

[JGL53]

people are going to rob stores, mug other people

men are going to rape women... its going to happen so we should legalize it right?

or do we prosecute the offenders?

why cant we prosecute abortion offenders if its made illegal ?

Your attempted analogies are fatally flawed. No country is ever going to legalize murder, rape, robbery or mugging. I certainly would not support making such legal, and neither woulde you, and something like 99 plus per cent of people will always just reject such out of hand. These are non-controversial issues. They will not be coming up for a vote. Problem solved.

OTOH, abortion continues apace, regardless of who BELIEVES it is murder. Eighty per cent of Americans, in poll after poll for 35 years now, think abortion should be legal in some cases, at least for rape and incest.

This eighty per cent of the people are the folks who you need to persuade to see abortion as murder. I don't think you can.

 

[KomissarSteve]

Dont you believe Christianity is right? Why should you argue agianst that? Im not attacking you, Im simply asking..

I'm not arguing against that; I'm arguing that it's not a given to everyone that it's right. Not everyone's convinced of that, so you really can't claim that it is and expect it to be considered a self-evident truth.

 

[chunkylee]

legalize murder

Interesting - this is an oxymoron, or a paradox, or something. Since murder is defined as the unlawful killing of a human being by another human being, attempting to legalize an action deemed 'murder' would make that action not 'murder' due to the fact that it would now be legal, making it the lawful killing of a human being by another human being. Thus, it is logically/semantically impossible to legalize murder!

 

[reverend B]

this is such an emotionally charged topic, and it starts out that way by how we name the opposing teams. pro-life and pro-choice. these two things are not opposites. the opposite of pro-life is pro-death (or anti-life), so the pro-lifers have cast themselves in an obvious position of "goodness", as no one will assert themselves to be pro-death. on the other hand, the opposite of pro-choice is pro-decree (or anti-choice). most of us do not like to be dictated to and prefer to have choices in our lives, so the pro-choice activists have cast themselves as the side of freedom. both sides have cloaked themselves in emotionally beneficial monickers that attempt to sway opinion.
so, my opinion? God is pro-choice, as we saw in the Garden. the rules were clear, but they were free to break them. we always have choice, which is what gives our decisions value. God wants us to have tough choices to make. those choices define us. our government has been set up to allow for the greatest amount of choice possible. it holds freedom up as the greatest gift to be protected and cherished. or faith does not hold this type of freedom in quite as high regard, which is why our faith can not determine policy.

 

[HumanisticJones]

this is such an emotionally charged topic, and it starts out that way by how we name the opposing teams. pro-life and pro-choice. these two things are not opposites. the opposite of pro-life is pro-death (or anti-life), so the pro-lifers have cast themselves in an obvious position of "goodness", as no one will assert themselves to be pro-death. on the other hand, the opposite of pro-choice is pro-decree (or anti-choice). most of us do not like to be dictated to and prefer to have choices in our lives, so the pro-choice activists have cast themselves as the side of freedom. both sides have cloaked themselves in emotionally beneficial monickers that attempt to sway opinion.
so, my opinion? God is pro-choice, as we saw in the Garden. the rules were clear, but they were free to break them. we always have choice, which is what gives our decisions value. God wants us to have tough choices to make. those choices define us. our government has been set up to allow for the greatest amount of choice possible. it holds freedom up as the greatest gift to be protected and cherished. or faith does not hold this type of freedom in quite as high regard, which is why our faith can not determine policy.

I like you and your wonderful wonderful logic on that. You seem you'd be a supporter of the idea that "If Christians don't want their daughters having abortions, they should teach them not to have them instead of making laws about it."

 

[KomissarSteve]

I like you and your wonderful wonderful logic on that. You seem you'd be a supporter of the idea that "If Christians don't want their daughters having abortions, they should teach them not to have them instead of making laws about it."

I know; social conservatives must really have very little faith in their own abilities to parent.

 

[Toboe]

I'm pro-choice. I think the idea of abortion is repulsive but I also feel that my opinion shouldn't be forced on someone else.

 

[.Sabre.]

I'm pro-choice. I think the idea of abortion is repulsive but I also feel that my opinion shouldn't be forced on someone else.

I second that.

 

[PassionFruit]

I'm pro-choice. I think the idea of abortion is repulsive but I also feel that my opinion shouldn't be forced on someone else.

Many pro-choicers share your sentiment.

 

[toddpianoworks]

I am pro-life.

 

[JGL53]

I am pro-life.

I'm anti-life.

No, wait, that's not right.

Hmmm - seems the language used on this issue is....somewhat loaded? I think it's what philosophers refer to as "victory through definition".

 

[Velo Princesse]

I know; social conservatives must really have very little faith in their own abilities to parent.

IMHO, this sentiment can be stretched to TV, video games, those dolls with the big heads who dress like hookers, etc. The reason that I am not raising cane about everything I see that I don't want my kids to do/see/play with is because I'm too busy TEACHING them how to be good people. I tend to wonder what is happening to the children of people who find the time to protest violence on TV.

In this case, it seems, that people are so worried about falling short that they want the government to deal with it for them. "I can't be sure my daughter [my son, my husband, or I] will do the right thing, so I need the government to make this thing illegal." The USA has become so government dependent and I find it really very troublesome.