Are you beyond corruption?

[Godlovesmetwo]

Some of us will never know because we will never be tempted.
Times in your life when you were tempted to cross the line of decency? When you were tempted to compromise your self-respect? Was it power? Lust? Drugs? Desperation due to lean times?
Without going into detail, I did cross that line a few times in my life. It proved to me that I am indeed corruptible. That my actual "ethics" were based on "out of sight, out of mind".
Maybe I am paying for those sins of the past now. I don't know. All I know is, you think you are incorruptible, until the temptation actually catches you at a weak point. I'm not as saintly as I thought I was. I don't think I am essentially evil either but every time I say the prayer containing "deliver us from evil", I mean it. because I know how weak I am.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Some of us will never know because we will never be tempted.
Times in your life when you were tempted to cross the line of decency? When you were tempted to compromise your self-respect? Was it power? Lust? Drugs? Desperation due to lean times?
Without going into detail, I did cross that line a few times in my life. It proved to me that I am indeed corruptible. That my actual "ethics" were based on "out of sight, out of mind".
Maybe I am paying for those sins of the past now. I don't know. All I know is, you think you are incorruptible, until the temptation actually catches you at a weak point. I'm not as saintly as I thought I was. I don't think I am essentially evil either but every time I say the prayer containing "deliver us from evil", I mean it. because I know how weak I am.

I have to completely agree. We may not be inherently evil but we are surely not inherently good. I would say we are inherently self centered which can even be a good thing at times but mostly needs to be struggled against.

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

My Response: Uh well... I just have a few short things to say




1. "Maybe I am paying for those sins of the past now. I don't know. All I know is, you think you are incorruptible, until the temptation actually catches you at a weak point."


My Response: YOu see this is part of the problem, we try to handle stuff ourselves when paul clearly says "for I know that in me that is in my flesh dwelleth no good thing. You're right we can't do a thing but if we get the holy ghost then Jesus in us can fix the problem. It's not us it's him. Also yeah most likely paying for sins, many change but they still pay for turning to drugs or whatever.


A. Walk in the spirit and you'll not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

B. put ye on the lord Jesus christ and make not provision for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof.

C. “In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptoness, gravity, sincerity,”


Explanation: If you are corruptible right now that's not what God wants you to be.

2. I was in the same situation as you I wasn't able to resist certain things. But since I have been saved I can't say the temptations have ever gotten the best of me. Sure i'm still tempted but as the bible says "I will not tempt you above what you are able." WHen you get saved and then after saved sanctified you shouldn't be weak anymore. Once you get that holy ghost you're able to endure hardness as a good soldier.

Some extra verses

1. Now unto him that is able to Keep me from falling and present me faultess


2. Be not overcome of evil but overcome evil with good.

 

[TheOldWays]

in our age of Dharma decline I think everyone is corruptible.

 

[CrystalDragon]

My Response: Uh well... I just have a few short things to say




1. "Maybe I am paying for those sins of the past now. I don't know. All I know is, you think you are incorruptible, until the temptation actually catches you at a weak point."


My Response: YOu see this is part of the problem, we try to handle stuff ourselves when paul clearly says "for I know that in me that is in my flesh dwelleth no good thing. You're right we can't do a thing but if we get the holy ghost then Jesus in us can fix the problem. It's not us it's him. Also yeah most likely paying for sins, many change but they still pay for turning to drugs or whatever.


A. Walk in the spirit and you'll not fulfill the lust of the flesh.

B. put ye on the lord Jesus christ and make not provision for the flesh to fulfill the lust thereof.

C. “In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works: in doctrine shewing uncorruptoness, gravity, sincerity,”


Explanation: If you are corruptible right now that's not what God wants you to be.

2. I was in the same situation as you I wasn't able to resist certain things. But since I have been saved I can't say the temptations have ever gotten the best of me. Sure i'm still tempted but as the bible says "I will not tempt you above what you are able." WHen you get saved and then after saved sanctified you shouldn't be weak anymore. Once you get that holy ghost you're able to endure hardness as a good soldier.

Some extra verses

1. Now unto him that is able to Keep me from falling and present me faultess


2. Be not overcome of evil but overcome evil with good.

I have a problem with that "we can't do anything good without Jesus" claim. Plenty of people either don't believe or have never heard of Jesus and they have good morals.

 

[DaisyDay]

Given the right circumstances - yep.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I just have a few short things to say

didn't look that short to me

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Given the right circumstances - yep.

Meaning no temptation?

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

I have a problem with that "we can't do anything good without Jesus" claim. Plenty of people either don't believe or have never heard of Jesus and they have good morals.

My Response: I worded that poorly.

Of course even before God manifested himself in the flesh people in teh old testament were judged by Good works so I am not suggesting people who are athiest can't do good works.


What I am suggesting that there is something called being good all the time.

This in the bible is known as virture however in the 21st century it's known as integrity. But anyway in order to have this and be incorruptible this takes God.


The bible says every good and perfect gift is from above.



Sure we can be good and do good but having integrity/virture is another thing. Having the ability to not commit adultery, not lie, not kill, not steal/cuss etc in any situation . comes with the holy ghost.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I think most of us have weak point, on which we can be tempted. Even if it is small as dominating a CF thread. "my opinion, my view of the world or Christianity is superior"

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

didn't look that short to me

My response:


I was gonna make it short but changed my mind typiing it haha. And I agree all of us have a weak spot, but over time you can resist it eventually. I mean for David it was lust, Peter it was being scared, Moses no confidence, Paul killing christians but when they overcame these things yeah.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Paul killing christians but when they overcame these things yeah.

But who knows. St. Paul may have had a different problem after he was saved. He could've become proud and arrogant about his preaching. He may have thought no one could question his preaching.

 

[JESUS=G.O.A.T]

But who knows. St. Paul may have had a different problem after he was saved. He could've become proud and arrogant about his preaching. He may have thought no one could question his preaching.

My response: I mean for all we know maybe after Paul wrote the new testament maybe he did lose the holy ghost. Based off acts 5 it's possible to lose. Also there are certain parts of the bible supposedly we don't have intact with the typical bible such as the songs of hebrews or whatever. I doubt he turned back tbh, I mean he wrote like 70% of the new testament or whatever, and he didn't even turn back after torture and being in jail for a while. Paul even said he's nothing straight up lol.


But my point is the point that is stated in teh bible. "No man can pluck you out of my hand" I'm not saying once saved always saved.


What I am saying: The spirit of God is 100% effective, nothing can stop us, but we can stop ourselves. No man or devil can remove us from God's grasp but we can choose to walk away from it by submitting to temptation or allowing that devil to influence us.


There's a reason teh bible says this "be not wise in thine own eyes but feareth the lord and depart from evil." The flesh giving in to something else can cause us to lose salvation, but nothing and I mean nothing can defeat God.

 

[DaisyDay]

Meaning no temptation?

Hmm, I didn't word that right ~ I meant, I am corruptible given the right circumstances. I hope it wouldn't be too easy or that I wouldn't be too bad. I'm not sadistic, but I do love my own comfort - I guess I'm already corrupt.

Oh well.

See, this is why I avoid mirrors and introspection.

 

[Aldebaran]

Some of us will never know because we will never be tempted.
Times in your life when you were tempted to cross the line of decency? When you were tempted to compromise your self-respect? Was it power? Lust? Drugs? Desperation due to lean times?

Me? Never! Even though all may fall away, I will never fall away! ---Peter

Now, let's just hope there are no Roosters around when the sun comes up....

 

[Tull]

I have a problem with that "we can't do anything good without Jesus" claim. Plenty of people either don't believe or have never heard of Jesus and they have good morals.

Which are like "filthy rags" because "good" is not good enough.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

See, this is why I avoid mirrors and introspection.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

There's a reason teh bible says this "be not wise in thine own eyes but feareth the lord and depart from evil."

I like that quote.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

Even in small things. I've noticed if I am engaged with a shy person in conversation, I instinctively become talkative and wish to dominate, instead of encouraging that person to speak up. It is almost like a release, after dealing with a an overtalkative person beforeheand.

 

[Nithavela]

I'm beyond corruption, just in the other direction.