Are you afraid to look through the telescope?

[sentipente]

I indeed think that is one of the three ways:

1. Observing nature
2. Reading the Word
3. Prayer and communication

Nothing stopping you from making up other ways. I will stick with the one mentioned in Rom. 1:20 because it is comprehensive. Your two others presuppose some caricature of the Creator. The first completely relies on the process.

 

[BGMCFAR]

I'm ffull time student and am animal science and ag science two majors and it very amazing how it all fits together and yes chemistry is involved even when it comes to feeding livestock how about the ten amino acids and spelled right on my final.

 

[JonMiller]

The revelation comes regardless of how deep the study is. I know something about your father whether I am just your neighbor or the surgeon who remove your appendix. The point is that knowledge of the Creator is best obtained by becoming familiar with the things that He made.

Aren't you interested in diagnosis though?

JM

 

[sentipente]

Aren't you interested in diagnosis though?

JM

Diagnosis of what or whom?

 

[JonMiller]

Don't you always ask about differences between nature now and nature in the story of Creation? Basically in the current natural state (the what is wrogn with us view?)

JM

 

[sentipente]

Nature has not changed. The same rules have always applied. We like to preach that man has changed when all that has changed is how man thinks of himself.

 

[AndrewK788]

My take on this would be anything that brings you closer to God is a good thing. The only thing we need to be careful of is when this directly contradicts the Bible. I believe the Bible is the ultimate source of authority and knowledge of God, but not the only source of knowledge. God is as capable of revealing his Spirit to us today as he was in the days of Abraham.

 

[JonMiller]

Nature has not changed. The same rules have always applied. We like to preach that man has changed when all that has changed is how man thinks of himself.

I thought that was your conclusion, but was suggesting if you still desired to study that question.

I do think it most likely our disagreements over science would become less so if you studied physics.

JM

 

[Avonia]

My take on this would be anything that brings you closer to God is a good thing. The only thing we need to be careful of is when this directly contradicts the Bible. I believe the Bible is the ultimate source of authority and knowledge of God, but not the only source of knowledge. God is as capable of revealing his Spirit to us today as he was in the days of Abraham.

Yes, this is a core issue. What's contrary and what's just really different?

I visited an Ashram for a day a few years ago and felt like an alien. But being there was so much different than just reading about Hinduism. There was a beautiful sense of peace, cohesion, and community. There was also a phenomenal sense of reverence. (And I ate really well as a vegetarian!)

But just the system of gods is mind-boggling! To say that it is a complex henotheistic system is an understatement. So, is it contrary to the Bible? If so, does that mean there's nothing to learn there even if it is contrary?

Visiting the Ashram is one of dozens of similar experiences I've had with other religions and philosophies that are much different than Christianity. But I have a sense that some of these communities know God in a way that is unique to their path. I've found value in that even though I don't want to join.

That's why I'm curious if other people have found value in experiencing diverse traditions.

 

[Cribstyl]

As an employee at NASA, I am often amazed by what we see through the telescope. The most amazing thing to me is that God's word remains true. Only the true God could dare say things that will happen exactly as He says things will happen.
Have you not notice that no other God has anything to say?

Put God to the test, know His word that you may prove Him.

2Cr 1:20For all the promises of God in him [are] yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

His word provides us hope.
Let us all stand by faith in God through the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

CRIB

 

[sentipente]

I thought that was your conclusion, but was suggesting if you still desired to study that question.

I do think it most likely our disagreements over science would become less so if you studied physics.

JM

Am I correct in thinking you are a reductionist like E.O. Wilson?

 

[sentipente]

The only thing we need to be careful of is when this directly contradicts the Bible. I believe the Bible is the ultimate source of authority and knowledge of God, but not the only source of knowledge.

I hope you soon get enlightened about this erroneous belief.

 

[JonMiller]

Am I correct in thinking you are a reductionist like E.O. Wilson?

I am not very familiar with him, but I am inclined towards reductionism.

JM

 

[mva1985]

My take on this would be anything that brings you closer to God is a good thing. The only thing we need to be careful of is when this directly contradicts the Bible. I believe the Bible is the ultimate source of authority and knowledge of God, but not the only source of knowledge. God is as capable of revealing his Spirit to us today as he was in the days of Abraham.

+1

 

[BGMCFAR]

What is amazing that the founders of all the religions of the Mohammed-Isalam cathalicism- Popes Buddism hynduism and so on are all dead ,but our Lord and Savior still lives isn,t that amazing All the religons of the world and our founder is still leading his people

 

[Sophia7]

What is amazing that the founders of all the religions of the Mohammed-Isalam cathalicism- Popes Buddism hynduism and so on are all dead ,but our Lord and Savior still lives isn,t that amazing All the religons of the world and our founder is still leading his people

Yes, although I would make the clarification that Catholicism is under the umbrella of Christianity.

 

[Cribstyl]

What is amazing that the founders of all the religions of the Mohammed-Isalam cathalicism- Popes Buddism hynduism and so on are all dead ,but our Lord and Savior still lives isn,t that amazing All the religons of the world and our founder is still leading his people

Is the Judgment in progress since 1844? Is that a partime or fulltime job for Jesus?

CRIB

 

[OntheDL]

Well, there are 3 books of God:

1. The nature
2. The sanctuary
3. The bible

 

[BGMCFAR]

Is the Judgment in progress since 1844? Is that a partime or fulltime job for Jesus?

CRIB

with God and Jesus all things are possiable That .s why we have trinity Catholicism under christanity yes but my understanding is that the Pope is suppoosed to be obnipitant and God here on earth, but they are all dead unless I missunderstand Cathalic beliefs.

 

[JonMiller]

Well, there are 3 books of God:

1. The nature
2. The sanctuary
3. The bible

I am interested in the weays you study the sanctuary outside of the Bible.

JM