Are you a member of the Elect?

[Cary.Melvin]

Are you are a member of God's elect people (i.e. predestined to salvation)? Or are you part of the reprobate?

Thanks,

 

[Elderone]

I am a member of the elect and more thankful than I would ever be able to express.

 

[ClementofRome]

Trolling trolling trolling, keep those boats a rolling!

I voted YES...and I hope that you can say that about yourself as well.

 

[Imblessed]

pretty silly question, if you ask me......


uhh, no....dispite the fact that I am a christian, and the bible assures me that God is the Author, Perfecter, AND Finisher of my faith......I don't know if I can claim to be Elect.........

See? That just sounds silly......

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

Who would admit to being reprobate?

 

[Godzchild]

Who would admit to being reprobate?

Exactly LOL

 

[Cary.Melvin]

I voted YES...and I hope that you can say that about yourself as well.

I'm afraid that I can't. How could I possibly know if I were a member of God's elect? Doesn't only God know that?

I suppose when I get to heaven (or hell), I will know then.

 

[mannysee]

are you in Christ?

if you are, you are elect.

 

[Cary.Melvin]

are you in Christ?.

I am right now. Ten years from now, I don't know.

if you are, you are elect.

Doesn't that depend on if you stay in Christ?

 

[reformedfan]

No, election depends on God's sovereign choice, not mine.

I converted, hence i am the elect. God predestined me. Christ died for me. The Spirit made me alive & convinced me of my sin & need for a Savior, the end.

Ten years from now I'll be just as elect as i am now, i'll never become reprobate or fall away eternally, i can't lose what God ordained & accomplished, whew!!

 

[Imblessed]

No, election depends on God's sovereign choice, not mine.

I converted, hence i am the elect. God predestined me. Christ died for me. The Spirit made me alive & convinced me of my sin & need for a Savior, the end.

Ten years from now I'll be just as elect as i am now, i'll never become reprobate or fall away eternally, i can't lose what God ordained & accomplished, whew!!

whew is right!

 

[mannysee]

<hands out a couple of tall glasses of cool lemonade

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Doesn't that depend on if you stay in Christ?

Only for those who don't believe in the Perseverance of the Saints, the fifth point.

Rob

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Can non-Reformed people vote in the poll, Cary? Rob

 

[reformedfan]

Only for those who don't believe in the Perseverance of the Saints, the fifth point.

Rob

& this is made possible by a grant from the Holy Spirit Association

 

[reformedfan]

(can't lose what you didn't secure, i mean. God doesn't save someone then magically forget that they are a sinner & assume their faithful walk is going to be thanx to their great inherent inexplicable goodness all of the sudden.)

 

[Cary.Melvin]

Only for those who don't believe in the Perseverance of the Saints, the fifth point.

Rob

Robbie,

I do believe in the Perseverance of the Saints. God's elect (to salvation) will infallibly persevere to the end. However, just because I am in Christ right now only proves that I was elected to grace, not necessarily to glory.

 

[reformedfan]

so salvation only lasts some people part of their lifetime, then? Christ's blood is a pretty inconsequential thing, with sinners able to declare to God "Hey, change your mind about me, Dude, thanx anyway!" & God honors it & obeys the sinner? yeah, that's pretty funny.

 

[Elderone]

I am right now. Ten years from now, I don't know.
Doesn't that depend on if you stay in Christ?

Here is a post of mine from awhile back which may help with your uncertainty.

God tells us He is Truth.

If you believe the Bible is, not contains, the written Word of God, it must be Truth.

If the Bible is Truth it will not say one thing in one place and have a contradictory statement in another.

Here are a few passages in which God tells us about everlasting life.

Quote:

Joh 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

Joh 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

Joh 4:14 "but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life."

Joh 5:24 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

Joh 6:27 "Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."

Joh 6:40 "And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day."

Joh 6:47 "Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

If any passage(s) seems to contradict these it is because we don't understand it, or them, correctly and need to study further.

God does not give salvation and then take it away.

The "P" in TULIP may help also.

Perserverance of the Saints. Those who are born as children of wrath, corrupt and sinful by nature, yet the elect of God, for whom alone Christ died, and who have experienced the efficacious grace of God leading to regeneration and conversion, will perservere to the end.

The elect cannot fall away. His salvation, initiated and secured by Christ, rooted in the absolute sovereignty and power of God, is guaranteed to the end. In the eternal security of God's grace, the elect person will experience the subjective knowledge of his own assurance of salvation.

Calvinists reject the doctrine that one can be saved, then fall away from grace, or lose his salvation. God alone is responsible for every aspect of salvation, from beginning to end, election to glory, and man contributes nothing to it.

I hope this is of some help...........

 

[CCWoody]

I'm afraid that I can't. How could I possibly know if I were a member of God's elect? Doesn't only God know that?

I suppose when I get to heaven (or hell), I will know then.

And, thus, you illustrate the inferiority of Roman Catholicism, Arminianism, and all Christian faith systems which cannot look their members in the eye and give them any assurance that they truly belong to the Lord everlastingly. Why, if I was looking for a religion to purge me of my sin and assure me of my place with the Lord, would I have any attraction for what you have?

I don't know about you, but when I cried out to the Lord, the weight of my sin was so massive that there was no mistaking the peace of God in knowing that it is no more. I actually look forward to the day of my death for that is the day that I get to get out of the ante-room of hell and go home. No guilt in life; no fear in death. This is the power of Christ in me.

1Jo 5:13 GB
(13) These things haue I written vnto you, that beleeue in the Name of that Sonne of God, that ye may knowe that ye haue eternall life, and that ye may beleeue in the Name of that Sonne of God.