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Bookofknowledge said:Today's Thought:
Submit to Democracy or face dead end (sanctions, removal from office, death threats or assasination) sounds like dictatorship, share your thoughts.
Kataphraktos said:Yes you are right, US Foreign Policy in my opinion is evil. The millions it has killed in the name of defense from the 'official enemies' is disgusting, however, Muslims have no right to complain, you don't have a countering political ideology, you just want to replace US Global Hegemony with Islamic Global Hegemony so don't pretend that you are really some kind of peaceful hippy, because Islam doesn't allow peace.
Bookofknowledge said:wow I just had my breakfast, lunch and dinner all in one combo
what is peace to you?
Kataphraktos said:People respecting one another's rights as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others and the resolution of conflicts without force.
ammuslim said:Bismillah:
do they have to be a true Muslims just because they have some Hindu temples in their countries ? it seems that you dont understand what is the meaning of 'true Muslim'
are you telling me that Hindus disappeared from Pakistan because there is no temple there ? i think you just have no idea about the numebrs of your fellow Hindus who live and work in Dubai, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi, Sadui Arabia, Egypt, and many other Muslim countries, where you cannot find any single hindu temple and yet the hindues %age in these countries is not getting less like what happened in Pakistan, in fact they are incearsing and many of them have his own business too.
it seems that all of these hindus people who live in a Muslim countries are not a 'true Hindus' because they dont go to temples.
peace
ammuslim
Yes I am being dictator if i call my siblings mean names or tell lies to them because Qur'aan is very clear on calling nicknames and telling lies...
49:11
O believers! Let no men laugh at other men who may perhaps be better than themselves; and let no woman laugh at another woman, who may perhaps be better than herself. Do not defame through sarcastic remarks about one another, nor call one another by offensive nicknames. It is an evil thing to be called by a bad name after being a believer, and those who do not repent are the ones who are the wrongdoers.
You making it so complex and difficult for humans to understand the works of Satan and False Prophets but let me ask you this question Is it difficult for your God?
Do you feel mankind was not educated by God so that they can understand the works of Satan?
Do you think Satan is more powerful then believers?
What did Jesus (AS) said about Abraham, Issac, Jacob, solomen, David, Lot, Moses - did Jesus say they were all my slaves whom he created and sent as Prophets?
Talcara said:Hi Bookofknowledge,
Try arrogant then. To much pride to admit when one is wrong. This is still not similar to a dictator. People here still let you have your opinion, they don't force you to believe or go along with their view (which is what a dictator does). This is what many Muslim nations and govenments are doing to Christians - they are forcing them to renounce their faith, threatening them with beatings, gaol, even death. I would agree with someone who said, "Practice what you preach first", earlier on in the thread. For that fact, the Hindus are no better, nor are the Buddhists, communists, etc, etc. All such govenments either have a zero policy against Christianity or they try to manage it carefully and keep their hands pushing down on it (i.e. legislate against it and keep it under government control).
I'd say that calling Jesus a prophet rather than the Son of God is defaming...
Thus, according to your own logic, Muslims are dictators...
IMO, you're being "mean" to your siblings, not a dictator.
Talcara said:Hi Bookofknowledge,
Try arrogant then. To much pride to admit when one is wrong. This is still not similar to a dictator. People here still let you have your opinion, they don't force you to believe or go along with their view (which is what a dictator does). This is what many Muslim nations and govenments are doing to Christians - they are forcing them to renounce their faith, threatening them with beatings, gaol, even death. I would agree with someone who said, "Practice what you preach first", earlier on in the thread. For that fact, the Hindus are no better, nor are the Buddhists, communists, etc, etc. All such govenments either have a zero policy against Christianity or they try to manage it carefully and keep their hands pushing down on it (i.e. legislate against it and keep it under government control).
I'd say that calling Jesus a prophet rather than the Son of God is defaming...
Thus, according to your own logic, Muslims are dictators...
IMO, you're being "mean" to your siblings, not a dictator.
peaceful soul said:The catch to the whole matter is that no one sign can be used to indicate that you have a relationship with God. You, or at least some Muslims, think that truth can be readily known by submission to Allah which entails doing righteous works. Righteous works alone do not mean a thing if you do not have the complete package. The spiritual world is complex, but if you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, it becomes easier to discern God's spirit from the false spirits that can emulate goodness. False spirits can and do emulate goodness, or what at least appears as goodness. It is people who assume that this goodness has to be authentic because it promotes good behavior. Since it promotes good behavior, this must be a sign of God or be from God. It is this kind of circular reasoning that man uses to make spiritual decisions. Man is drawn by the call to goodness without knowing its source. Goodness or the appearance of goodness without knowing its source is the problem with Islam and other belief systems. There is a big difference in God's goodness and what we intellectualize as goodness, aka: human goodness.
peaceful soul said:No. But man does have a limited sense of good and evil but not the nature of satan. As imperfect beings, we have very little knowledge of spiritual things.
After sin entered into this world through Adam, man became incapable of knowing the fullness of God because of his spiritual disconnect from God. Man lost the ablilty to have a harmonic relationship and righteous standing with God on his own will. Man's will became one of serving self before serving God. God had to somehow bring us back to that state whereby we could have that complete spiritual connection with Him. This is the reason of Jesus's sacrifice for our sins and the Holy Spirit being sent to the believers in Christ's sacrifice.
We have the ability to know some signs of who satan is, but we do not know the spiritual world like he does so that we could discern all ungodly things and thus, stay away from those things. satan exists in the spiritual realm and has privy to more knowledge of the spiritual world than we do; so, how can we not be fooled by his trickery, aka: spiritual deception.
Muslims in general, think that since the Qu'ran calls people to be righteous, that satan could not be the influence for this text. The Bible teaches us that this is not true. As I have stated many times before, deception is not known to the deceived as deception. Intellect is not the issue here. The issue that I refer to is spiritual discernment, knowledge, and understanding of the spiritual world.
peaceful soul said:Once again, your ignorance shows. This is not a matter of satan being stronger. It has to do with the spiritual world. We are imperfect beings marred by sin, and we are spiritually ignorant and incompetent. satan is able to subdue us because of our lack of understanding and knowing spiritual things of God - not power. The power of satan is in that he is privy to spiritual things that are not of God and uses our ignorance of these things to defeat us and keep us separated from God's spiritual guidance, which can only be given through God's spirit, the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not an angel or Gabriel, BTW. God's spirit is God - not a separate entity projected from Him like you probably think.
Think of it this way: someone who knows an area of disclipine (expert) can use his knowledge and lead you to a make a bad decision if he chooses to or he can use that knowledge and protect you. Of course, satan would not be there to protect you. You know the outcome. Another point: we can not get rid of satan's influence by doing righteous deeds. You can only combat satan by relying upon the spirit of God, Holy Spirit as your guide. It is our bearer of truth, the comforter, the Spirit of Truth - not Mohammad.
peaceful soul said:I am not sure what you are asking or trying to say. Explain.
Bookofknowledge said:Mankind always had and will have their limits once anyone cross them and does something it's not the virtues of goodness.
You are welcome to critisise but you are not allowed to go outside the boundries of what was allowed or said and done within a given time frame by the community at large or a nation.
Bookofknowledge said:How can you claim according to my own logic Muslims are dictators when you explained that "they don't force you to believe or go along with their view" - You may ask why did I say this? Ask me I will explain it to you.
Can Satan do righteous deeds, is he not pure evil? One more thing do you believe Satan has the power to harm me and you?
Electra said:Could you please elaborate on this?
Obviously there is a clear distinction between insulting and constructive critisism. Critisisng lack of democrasy is not an insult.
What would you say to me, because I do not believe in Allah or any other such being? Are you going to tell me im blinded from the truth and are going to Hell unless i see things your way?
Would that attitude be constructive critisism in your view or a clear insult?
A lot of muslim scholors say he married a nine year old and that would be considered young by todays standards. He could heve married a 2 year old for all I care. or an 18 year old like some websites claim it doesn't mean he was a prophet.Osel said:What, like he was a paedophile who married a 9 year old?
urnotme said:A lot of muslim scholors say he married a nine year old and that would be considered young by todays standards. He could heve married a 2 year old for all I care. or an 18 year old like some websites claim it doesn't mean he was a prophet.
looking4wisdom said:The "Prophet" married Aisha when she was six, and then had relations with her when she was nine. I think she was his fifth or six wife, although it is only permitted that muslims have 4 wives.
Sometimes I think mohammed was a false prophet and sometimes I thinkm he was a true prophet with a screw loose, but I agree with very little of what he said. I think people can start out prophesying and change their minds.Bookofknowledge said:A false Prophet doesn't and cann't call towards righteousness and peace? do you agree with me?
How did mohammed die?Bookofknowledge said:Understand the limits of a false Prophet and you will be able to figure that out by your self. You cann't deny the fact that God is peace and from God alone is peace.
Do you not believe in God of Abraham? do you say God Abraham is Jesus(AS)?
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