Are we the only inhabited planet in God's Universe?

visionary · Jul 10, 2018

Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fullness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him.

We are on God's Universe's stage, on display before God and all His creations as to what happens to those caught up in sin, consumed by sin, and redeemed from sin. We are probably the only planet that is caught up in this controversy and that is why Satan is banished to here rather than any other inhabitable planet in His Universe.

visionary · Jul 10, 2018

1 Cor 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

In the NIV for "world" the "whole universe" is given. The margin of the KJV for spectacle gives "theatre." There is no one on earth who needs "no repentance" and beings on the unfallen worlds would be described this way.

Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

visionary · Jul 10, 2018

BNR32FAN said:
We should be careful not to have beliefs that are not proven by the scriptures. It’s ok to entertain the possibility but not believe or teach it as truth.

This earth has been quarantined because of sin but it is going to be reunited with the whole universe once it has been cleansed from sin.

th1bill · Jul 10, 2018

visionary said:
Let's look at some of the evidence suggesting that there might be other inhabited planets. Please not the plural "worlds"

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

You toss scripture out there in the same fashion that I once Lagged Quarters and say nothing about how you used these scriptures that you have removed, completely from their context.

I see you claim to be a Messianic Jew but you post as if you are an atheist. I've never said this to one of my Jewish Converts before but you appear to have missed the mark, some how.

Having taught the scriptures for more than 25years, studying every day I realized, under the tutelage of Ruah that Yashuah wrote/inspired the, formerly undivided and unnumbered manuscripts of the Bible that as a whole, all ties together.

Then I learned that the Holy Word is of one continuous context, the Salvation of Man. Then, about twelve years ago He taught me that the 24 books or scrolls He, Paul and all the Disciples taught Christianity from was the Jewish Torah and that makes the past 27 books to be Yashuah ha'Mashiah to be Life Application Commentaries on the first 39 books, the Bible, divided and segmented in these Later Days, men, inspired by the Devil, that he and the Demons could confuse and mystify Mortal Man.

Please pray, seeking YHWH for the true answer on this matter.

Heber Book List · Jul 10, 2018

visionary said:
Let's look at some of the evidence suggesting that there might be other inhabited planets. Please not the plural "worlds"

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Go to Genesis 1- it disagrees with you, even if you want to throw in the so called big-bang.

Your Hebrews verses are 'interesting', a number of translations use the word 'universe' at those points, though it may be 'worlds' - plural -, in the sense of there being a heaven above the canopy, or the world beneath their feet; these are rather archaic uses of the word, though.

When was that version first published?

Heber Book List · Jul 10, 2018

visionary said:
"General Assembly" is the term used by the, United Nations for a meeting of the representatives of every member nation on earth. We could have a heavenly federation of God's people and they don't have to look like us or be from our planet. What makes us think that we are the only beings on the only planet in God's Universe?

Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

That clearly refers to the heavenly Jerusalem, with the angels in joyful assembly. No indication of multiple worlds or planets etc.

Heber Book List · Jul 10, 2018

visionary said:
This earth has been quarantined because of sin but it is going to be reunited with the whole universe once it has been cleansed from sin.

Scripture reference?

Heber Book List · Jul 10, 2018

visionary said:
The latest estimate I heard is that there could be 64 billion such planets that could be inhabited in our galaxy alone.

Heb 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

The 'cloud of witnesses' is the saints gone before, as shown in the previous chapter, as the context shows. It does not mean a cloud in the sky!

Heber Book List · Jul 10, 2018

visionary said:
1 Cor 4:9 For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.

In the NIV for "world" the "whole universe" is given. The margin of the KJV for spectacle gives "theatre." There is no one on earth who needs "no repentance" and beings on the unfallen worlds would be described this way.

Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it? And when he hath found it, he layeth it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost. I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.

Re 1 Cor 4:9 That is speculation.

Re Luke - it is usually best not to turn an analogy, or figure of speech, into a biblical fact to fit your argument!

visionary · Jul 10, 2018

Hebrews 11:3: ‘Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.’

visionary · Jul 10, 2018

th1bill said:
You toss scripture out there in the same fashion that I once Lagged Quarters and say nothing about how you used these scriptures that you have removed, completely from their context.

I see you claim to be a Messianic Jew but you post as if you are an atheist. I've never said this to one of my Jewish Converts before but you appear to have missed the mark, some how.

Having taught the scriptures for more than 25years, studying every day I realized, under the tutelage of Ruah that Yashuah wrote/inspired the, formerly undivided and unnumbered manuscripts of the Bible that as a whole, all ties together.

Then I learned that the Holy Word is of one continuous context, the Salvation of Man. Then, about twelve years ago He taught me that the 24 books or scrolls He, Paul and all the Disciples taught Christianity from was the Jewish Torah and that makes the past 27 books to be Yashuah ha'Mashiah to be Life Application Commentaries on the first 39 books, the Bible, divided and segmented in these Later Days, men, inspired by the Devil, that he and the Demons could confuse and mystify Mortal Man.

Please pray, seeking YHWH for the true answer on this matter.

Dr. David Weintraub, professor of astronomy at Vanderbilt University and the author of Religions and Extraterrestrial Life: How Will We Deal With It?, affirms that Judaism is spiritually prepared for little green men. “Judaism accepts the possibility of extraterrestrial life. Jewish theology may actually require a belief in extraterrestrials since there are no limits on the power of the creator. Thus, for Jews to say that no life beyond the Earth could possibly exist would be unacceptable, as such an idea would appear to place shackles on God’s creative power…the universe belongs to God and God can do what God wishes to do with the universe.” http://www.aish.com/ci/s/Judaism-and-Life-on-Other-Planets.html

Heber Book List · Jul 11, 2018

visionary said:
Hebrews 11:3: ‘Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.’

That text proves, again, my argument that you should read Genesis Ch 1 (and 2 as well). God created everything from nothing.

Heber Book List · Jul 11, 2018

visionary said:
Dr. David Weintraub, professor of astronomy at Vanderbilt University and the author of Religions and Extraterrestrial Life: How Will We Deal With It?, affirms that Judaism is spiritually prepared for little green men. “Judaism accepts the possibility of extraterrestrial life. Jewish theology may actually require a belief in extraterrestrials since there are no limits on the power of the creator. Thus, for Jews to say that no life beyond the Earth could possibly exist would be unacceptable, as such an idea would appear to place shackles on God’s creative power…the universe belongs to God and God can do what God wishes to do with the universe.” http://www.aish.com/ci/s/Judaism-and-Life-on-Other-Planets.html

Fine! But saying it doesn't prove it. As I said earlier, 'science is pure faith... until proven wrong'.

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Dkh587 · Jul 11, 2018

visionary said:
Psalm 19:1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.

Amos 5:8 He who made the Pleiades and Orion And changes deep darkness into morning, Who also darkens day into night, Who calls for the waters of the sea And pours them out on the surface of the earth, The LORD is His name.

Moses wrote that we live on what is called “land”, and that what we see in the sky are called stars/lights.

What we live on and what we see are 2 different things, and Moses clearly distinguished between the 2.

We don’t live on a planet, nor is there such a thing in the Tanach/NT. We live on land, and lights/stars inhabit the sky. That’s it.

the only other intelligent beings that exist outside of humans/earth are God and Christ and the various classifications of divine beings in heaven(Malakim, seraphim, cherubim, the sons of God[benei ha’elohim] etc).

There’s no mysterious species of intelligent life forms tucked away in a distant galaxy living on a “planet”. The Torah & Prophets tell us exactly what exists in terms of intelligent life forms.

AbbaLove · Jul 11, 2018

visionary said:
Hebrews 11:3: ‘Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.’

There are just as many translations that read "universe" instead of worlds. Then there is Young's Literal Translation ...

Hebrews 11:3 YTL
by faith we understand the ages to have been prepared by a saying of God, in regard to the things seen not having come out of things appearing;

Those intellectuals with their doctorates that have tickled your ears are for the most part atheists. You come across as someone who believes in evolution instead of Genesis.

Rachel Rachel · Jul 11, 2018

Well, I don't know if other planets are inhabited now or not but the angel Gabriel battled some entity called the Prince of Persia for 21 days.

Also Matthew 24 tells us that at the last trump believers will be gathered from one end of heaven to the other. So maybe other planets Are inhabited or will be!

Heber Book List · Jul 11, 2018

Rachel Rachel said:
Well, I don't know if other planets are inhabited now or not but the angel Gabriel battled some entity called the Prince of Persia for 21 days.

Also Matthew 24 tells us that at the last Trump believers will be gathered from one end of heaven to the other. So maybe other planets Are inhabited or will be!

I hope he is the last Trump - the world could not cope with another!

Rachel Rachel · Jul 11, 2018

Heber Book List said:
I hope he is the last Trump - the world could not cope with another!

I might have to disagree with you on that. ☺

th1bill · Jul 11, 2018

visionary said:
Hebrews 11:3: ‘Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.’

Once more you rip a scripture from it's context, sling it against the wall to see if it will stick and it just slides down the wall and into the dirt. If you cannot provide an exegesis of a scripture, it is safe not to use it. Place the scripture into it's context and it has, not, a thing to do with Rocket Man and Flash Gordon.

th1bill · Jul 11, 2018

visionary said:
Dr. David Weintraub, professor of astronomy at Vanderbilt University and the author of Religions and Extraterrestrial Life: How Will We Deal With It?, affirms that Judaism is spiritually prepared for little green men. “Judaism accepts the possibility of extraterrestrial life. Jewish theology may actually require a belief in extraterrestrials since there are no limits on the power of the creator. Thus, for Jews to say that no life beyond the Earth could possibly exist would be unacceptable, as such an idea would appear to place shackles on God’s creative power…the universe belongs to God and God can do what God wishes to do with the universe.” http://www.aish.com/ci/s/Judaism-and-Life-on-Other-Planets.html

Since you are not very forthcoming I am left deduce your truth. I'm making you either to be a young lady or a delusional middle aged female that has read, far, to many Syfi novels and possibly you are, way, to involved in Star Trek and Star Wars.

There are two major groups of Jewish people. There is the largest by far is the Secular Jew, of whom your Prof qualifies and then there is the Believing Jew, Christian or of Jewish Faith. You look to be hung in-between, grasping at both as they are creeping apart and you must turn loose of one or the other lest you loose grip on both and crash, killing all on board.

Scripture teaches us the, rather obvious that we cannot serve two masters at the same time. (Matthew 6:24) The Son Of YHWH, Yashuah ha'Mashia, created everything we can see and touch. (john 1:1-3)

In the Revelation of Yashuah 6:13 we find commentary on Isaiah 34:4 where we learn, with certainty The Truth. He did not create any beings but the Human Being Race of peoples. It is either that way or our Elohim is a cruel and unjust Mighty One and that is not true, is it?

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