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"Are we saved?" ...were you the One you became, or does Christ not so acknowledge you?

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Hi there,

So there is a very clear lesson to be learned from Revelation (2:17), in fact: Christ gives us a white stone and written on it, a new name, if we will confess the things that displease Him. The lesson is very simple: are we as we were born in sin, or are we the One we became, when we put our faith in Christ?

Will you get to the end, and say "no, I want to be the old name, the old way, I repent of nothing"? Or will you get to the end and say "yes, I was an enemy of God, but now I confess I am as He wanted to have known me: by a name He does not put to shame"? Do you see that you must daily confess, you are no longer who you were?

The Bible makes clear Jesus suffered in prayer, even to the sweating of blood, but what it does not say, is that Jesus was daily making this prayer, that is why the pressure built up to the degree it did. If I could make it easier for you I would, but as long as you are not confessing, you are not pleading the blood of the Lamb - if I could make it lighter I would, but your new name is written on a white stone, it's testimony to your place with the Son of God could not be more perfect!

When all is said and done, you must confess and confess that you do not want to be known by another name - instead of the one on the white stone - at all. Do not be fooled, the world does not recognize this name, no one but Yeshua - Jesus - recognizes it as it should be recognized - not even I can fully grasp your joy at receiving this name: He alone speaks to your heart with this name, that you may have the glory He had, with His Father, wearing the Name that was given Him, not the old name, by which the world knew Him.

As much as you would change your mind, confess!
 
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Hi there,

So there is a very clear lesson to be learned from Revelation (2:17), in fact: Christ gives us a white stone and written on it, a new name, if we will confess the things that displease Him. The lesson is very simple: are we as we were born in sin, or are we the One we became, when we put our faith in Christ?

Will you get to the end, and say "no, I want to be the old name, the old way, I repent of nothing"? Or will you get to the end and say "yes, I was an enemy of God, but now I confess I am as He wanted to have known me: by a name He does not put to shame"? Do you see that you must daily confess, you are no longer who you were?

The Bible makes clear Jesus suffered in prayer, even to the sweating of blood, but what it does not say, is that Jesus was daily making this prayer, that is why the pressure built up to the degree it did. If I could make it easier for you I would, but as long as you are not confessing, you are not pleading the blood of the Lamb - if I could make it lighter I would, but your new name is written on a white stone, it's testimony to your place with the Son of God could not be more perfect!

When all is said and done, you must confess and confess that you do not want to be known by another name - instead of the one on the white stone - at all. Do not be fooled, the world does not recognize this name, no one but Yeshua - Jesus - recognizes it as it should be recognized - not even I can fully grasp your joy at receiving this name: He alone speaks to your heart with this name, that you may have the glory He had, with His Father, wearing the Name that was given Him, not the old name, by which the world knew Him.

As much as you would change your mind, confess!


Revelation 2:17
"17He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it."

Matthew 16
"16Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” 17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."

There is something here, though hard to grasp.
 
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I think it has something to do with being happy to be predetermined, to be someone else...

Jim Brown, is a big advocate of predeterminism, if you are interested.

"something to do with being happy to be predetermined, to be someone else, until death do you part" sort of thing.
 
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I think it has something to do with being happy to be predetermined, to be someone else...

Jim Brown, is a big advocate of predeterminism, if you are interested.

"something to do with being happy to be predetermined, to be someone else, until death do you part" sort of thing.

Jim Brown?

1 Timothy 6:12-13
"12Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made the good confession before many witnesses. 13I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who made the good confession in His testimony before Pontius Pilate"
 
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Hi there,

So there is a very clear lesson to be learned from Revelation (2:17), in fact: Christ gives us a white stone and written on it, a new name, if we will confess the things that displease Him. The lesson is very simple: are we as we were born in sin, or are we the One we became, when we put our faith in Christ?

Will you get to the end, and say "no, I want to be the old name, the old way, I repent of nothing"? Or will you get to the end and say "yes, I was an enemy of God, but now I confess I am as He wanted to have known me: by a name He does not put to shame"? Do you see that you must daily confess, you are no longer who you were?

The Bible makes clear Jesus suffered in prayer, even to the sweating of blood, but what it does not say, is that Jesus was daily making this prayer, that is why the pressure built up to the degree it did. If I could make it easier for you I would, but as long as you are not confessing, you are not pleading the blood of the Lamb - if I could make it lighter I would, but your new name is written on a white stone, it's testimony to your place with the Son of God could not be more perfect!

When all is said and done, you must confess and confess that you do not want to be known by another name - instead of the one on the white stone - at all. Do not be fooled, the world does not recognize this name, no one but Yeshua - Jesus - recognizes it as it should be recognized - not even I can fully grasp your joy at receiving this name: He alone speaks to your heart with this name, that you may have the glory He had, with His Father, wearing the Name that was given Him, not the old name, by which the world knew Him.

As much as you would change your mind, confess!
Getting a new name is like Peter being renamed Cephas (Petras) or Jacob called Israel. That little stone with a name only you and God know is just a token, represented the relationship you have with Christ. You seem to imagine there will be some kind of a debate resulting because the individual doesn't want to be called by that name. The thing is no one else can know it so they can't very well call you by it.
 
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"John reveals a more substantive conversation between Pilate and Jesus. In John’s account Jesus declares that He has a kingdom, and it is not of this world (John 18:36); He is a King, and He has come to bear witness to the truth (John 18:37). In any event, Pilate’s inscription placed above Jesus, declaring Him the King of the Jews, makes it clear that there was little ambiguity involved (John 19:19). Before Pilate Jesus declared that He was a King, the King of the Jews; to any observant Jew, this meant that before the Roman authorities Jesus claimed to be the descendant of David, the Anointed One, the Messiah, the Christ.

Therefore, Jesus as the Messiah is the good confession which Jesus made before Pilate. Early Christians insisted on every believer making a similar confession before others: many ancient versions record the Ethiopian eunuch doing so (Acts 8:37), Paul speaks about it to the Romans (Romans 10:9-10), the Hebrew author has something similar in mind (Hebrews 3:1, 4:14, 10:23), and Paul here speaks of Timothy’s confession (1 Timothy 6:12-14). As Jesus confessed His identity before Pilate, so believers are to confess Jesus’ identity before others as well."
https://www.spiritualmanna.info/goodconfession/
 
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