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Are we doomed ?

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Quantos

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Reading this, and thinking of when I was going through vs what I've heard from my dad when he went through.

http://www.d-n-i.net/fcs/comments/c308.htm

Is the U.S. military doomed ?

nyway, the same day the Col. is talking to a private, the private is standing like a sloppy civilian, and a drill corrects him, and the Col. turns around, and says to the drill sergeant, "Don't worry drill, I got it," and then told the private to stand however it makes him comfortable. What kind of outright slap in the face that is to a drill sergeant and to the NCO corps? I can't stand the officers worrying about the privates' feelings, and if he eats whatever he wants, and not caring if the end product is a soldier that can fight and win, and is combat ready. I can only hope that this disease has not spread beyond Fort Benning. If it has, I feel sorry for the day when we see a combat zone that needs a strong hungry soldier capable of closing with and destroying the enemy. Am I the only one worried about this, or is this normal? Tell me that the army will change its view about training a soldier and trusting the drill sergeant.
 

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Quantos said:
Is the U.S. military doomed ?

I have a difficult time believing the story written, this is not to say it isn't true, but it is highly unlikely and not the norm even by today's basic training standards.

I see no reason to think that the military is doomed. Yes, political correctness has taken a foothold within our ranks, but it is quickly losing steam. With the ongoing war, former Generals like Shinseki are becoming less popular. I believe the days of "feel good" berets and pats in the back are over.

Big Air Force is learning a hard lesson on this, all of those years with little or no discipline within many careerfields is starting to sting a bit.
 
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The military is doomed as long as the politicians run it. When the letter of the law is observed, when the political polarization in Washington determines the outcome of a war, when the media covers people like Cindy Sheehan as bona-fide sources, this military is in trouble.
In Afghanistan, one of America's Apaches had the Prime Minister of the Taliban in his sights...and ordered NOT TO FIRE because that would be defined as "assassination".
When a military is forced to run according to politically correct rules and laws that allow an insurgency to operate freely, our military is in trouble.
When the media has decided to report every problem, death, attack, and every American mistake, rather than reporting all the GOOD that is happening, our military is in trouble.
How many times did the media condemm the insurgency for killing its own people (innocent Iraqis, policemen, mothers, children) with car bombs, before a CIA's Predator blew up a building with members of Al-Queda...and women and children? When all those that report on a war decide to only report the negatives, and when the politicians wanting reelection determine how we fight, the military is doomed.
We can't win a war when the people we expect to give us the facts give us a pack of biased, politically-correct junk.
 
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Look, don't let that story fool you. I can't speak for the Army, as I'm in the Air Force, but I highly doubt a Colonel of any branch would correct a DI/TI in front of new recruits, much less lower the standards. I went through basic training coming up on 2 years now, and if we weren't standing at attention as straight as can be we'd get yelled at or do pushups or flutter kicks or something. You always hear stories like this where the main point is, "things ain't the way they used to be..." but the truth is everyone still gets yelled at and everyone still does a billion pushups a day in basic.
 
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