Are u losing your child to the world?

[DawnTillery]

I need HELP, I need advice.

My daughter just turned 16, is into a lot of evil things, wicca, thinks she is deaths angel, black, goth, punk, dark, depressing music, rebellion, thats just off the top of my head.

She claims to be saved to me, but Ive bought her books and she complains all they are about is God. I do buy her other books also, so I dont think I am shoving things down her throat. The last book i bought her was battlefield of the mind for teens. I want her to realize the things she is into are not from God.

When she is around me, she wants to start working towards being a Sunday School teacher, but once she is away from church and with her friends she is into all the stuff I mentioned.
I can not say ANYTHING to her about her friends, she is so full of attitude and anger if I do that.
Even when they treat her bad, she dont care.

When I try to talk to her about anything, she doesnt listen and I find myself dictating instead of talking.
I am running out of time, she is 16 and claims she is going to get into even worse things next year.

She has no self respect for herself and no respect for anyone else. Dont matter who it is.

Noone around me, family etc want to help me, they just let her go on about the way she is. They dont try to persuade her, so I have NO help.

If you have been through this how do I fix it.

Ive turned things over to God, but I know what its going to take on my end, because I cant deal with her being the way she is and around the younger kids, my other daughter which is only 10, is starting to act just like her (not all the stuff she is into, but lieing, attitude, rudeness) etc..

Counseling doesnt work, cause she dotn want to go so she tells lies and laughs about it.

Any insight, help PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me.

 

[wonderwaleye]

Dear DawnTillery


True COMFORT comes from GOD'S WORD. That is another reason we must have it locked in our heart.


GOD'S WORD says:


" TEACH THEM RIGHT WHILE THEY ARE YOUNG, THEY WILL VEER, BUT THEY SHALL RETURN TO THEIR TEACHINGS "


SO


Did you teach them right???

Do you believe GOD???


There's your answer!!!


Now let me say that I have 8 children. It worked EXACTLY like GOD told me it would.


The HOLY SPIRIT was very kind to me and let me know just before the bad times came that they would be coming. I can remember exactly where I was walking when that happened. GOD IS EVERYTHING!!!


Never be ashamed to CHASTIZE, GROUND, DENY PHONE CONTACT and GIVE EXTRA DUTY as a PRIZE for their actions. YOU MUST STAND YOUR GROUND!!!


You are NOT their friend. YOU are their mother, teacher, and COP!!!

FRIENDSHIP comes latter when they mature.


WHAT A JOY IT IS TO REMEMBER:




X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

 

[jesusmysaviour76]

As sad as this sounds sometimes we need to let our children make their mistakes and just pray for them.

I know it is scary, but I was there once too. All my nana could do was pray like mad, and with enough prayers of agreement I came back to my home.

Perhaps in a sort of sneaky fashion, because we all know at 16 mums are so uncool and out of touch, find her someone that could work as a mentor? Don't tell her this is what you are doing but perhaps introduce her to someone that is a bit older than her but young enough to still appeal, someone that has their licence can take her out for one on one time, but at the same time can give her the great influence that her friends obviously aren't. Someone that she is able to gain trust in, and feels she can tell pretty much anything too. You will find she will learn to respect that woman, and the person's attitudes and beliefs will tend to fall off onto your daughter. It needs to be someone though that still remembers what it is like to be a rebellious sixteen year old. Someone who isn't going to bible bash her. Because like all sixteen year olds, we don't want to do what mum and dad say so we go the complete opposite direction, we find the most insulting thing we can get away with and do it. Hence you are a Christian and she is into Wicca. It's all about a battle of the wills.

If you ignore it and don't push her, she will actually cave. She will start to look at her life and think what on earth am I doing. Show by example, show her the love of God, show her what she is missing out on when she is with her friends. How great God's love is. Tell her about the blessings you receive everyday no matter how little, soon she will begin to get jealous and want to out do you on the blessings, so she will begin to look at what your doing.

I know all of this sounds sneaky, but it seems it's the only way to go, well thats how my nana had to be with me lol.

 

[sb573]

from personal exp just because you dress "goth" doesn't mean you can't be a good person.
Sometimes when you've been around somethin so much you just need to get away from it for a bit.
That doesn't mean you don't still love it and believe in it. When your 16 you want to know so much and this is a way of learning and experiencing things.
Just support her don't try to "make her stop" or that will increase the allure of what she is doing.
At least this is how I was
Stacey

 

[Macca]

I need HELP, I need advice.

My daughter just turned 16, is into a lot of evil things, wicca, thinks she is deaths angel, black, goth, punk, dark, depressing music, rebellion, thats just off the top of my head.

She claims to be saved to me, but Ive bought her books and she complains all they are about is God. I do buy her other books also, so I dont think I am shoving things down her throat. The last book i bought her was battlefield of the mind for teens. I want her to realize the things she is into are not from God.

When she is around me, she wants to start working towards being a Sunday School teacher, but once she is away from church and with her friends she is into all the stuff I mentioned.
I can not say ANYTHING to her about her friends, she is so full of attitude and anger if I do that.
Even when they treat her bad, she dont care.

When I try to talk to her about anything, she doesnt listen and I find myself dictating instead of talking.
I am running out of time, she is 16 and claims she is going to get into even worse things next year.

She has no self respect for herself and no respect for anyone else. Dont matter who it is.

Noone around me, family etc want to help me, they just let her go on about the way she is. They dont try to persuade her, so I have NO help.

If you have been through this how do I fix it.

Ive turned things over to God, but I know what its going to take on my end, because I cant deal with her being the way she is and around the younger kids, my other daughter which is only 10, is starting to act just like her (not all the stuff she is into, but lieing, attitude, rudeness) etc..

Counseling doesnt work, cause she dotn want to go so she tells lies and laughs about it.

Any insight, help PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me.

Dawn,
Be encouraged that this is a passing phase.
A piece of advice for you and all who read this: During your prayer time, pray your will to be bound to God's will; also your daughter's. Then pray your mind, thoughts, desires, plans and words be bound to the mind of Christ, then your daughter's.
then loose all strongholds from yours and her life in Jesus' name.
Do this regularly, believing, and watch the results.

 

[goldenviolet]

it's going to be ok. 16 is the age where they start seeking their options. exspressing the things they think about. my advice to you is to keep communications open. i mean showing her how she comes across, and getting dialog going... get her to help you understand her. then she'll see through your eyes without you even trying. i had one child decide to be athiest for two years. drove me nuts at first. then i remembered the Isrealites and how many times they strayed. God's promises stand. everything will work out. bless you and her.

 

[DawnTillery]

Dear DawnTillery


True COMFORT comes from GOD'S WORD. That is another reason we must have it locked in our heart.


GOD'S WORD says:


" TEACH THEM RIGHT WHILE THEY ARE YOUNG, THEY WILL VEER, BUT THEY SHALL RETURN TO THEIR TEACHINGS "


SO


Did you teach them right???

Do you believe GOD???


There's your answer!!!


Now let me say that I have 8 children. It worked EXACTLY like GOD told me it would.


The HOLY SPIRIT was very kind to me and let me know just before the bad times came that they would be coming. I can remember exactly where I was walking when that happened. GOD IS EVERYTHING!!!


Never be ashamed to CHASTIZE, GROUND, DENY PHONE CONTACT and GIVE EXTRA DUTY as a PRIZE for their actions. YOU MUST STAND YOUR GROUND!!!


You are NOT their friend. YOU are their mother, teacher, and COP!!!

FRIENDSHIP comes latter when they mature.


WHAT A JOY IT IS TO REMEMBER:




X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

No I guesss I didnt when she was young because I have only been a Christian just over two years now.

 

[DawnTillery]

from personal exp just because you dress "goth" doesn't mean you can't be a good person.
Sometimes when you've been around somethin so much you just need to get away from it for a bit.
That doesn't mean you don't still love it and believe in it. When your 16 you want to know so much and this is a way of learning and experiencing things.
Just support her don't try to "make her stop" or that will increase the allure of what she is doing.
At least this is how I was
Stacey

I let her dress the way she wants and her make-up but there is also a limit.
1. I dont allow chains, because of the type of violence that is capable at the high school.
2. I dont allow destroying a pair of jeans with permanent marker, becasue I cant afford another pair right away.
3. She wears her makeup at school, but not at home, but I also told her to keep it down to a minumum, because she wants to wear enough that u cant even see her face.
4. No drugs in my house (she has brought in pills) although im unsure if they were actually "drugs" ..
5. no razor blades, safety pins etc she cuts when she gets mad at me (ONLY WHEN SHE GETS MAD) not any other time.. and it has to be a HUGE thing, not just because i wont make blueberry pie for supper.
2-3 times a year...

Thats about all on that..

I also can not talk to her about anything, because she will try it, so i have to just basically let her do what she wants and it will all turn out ok. I actually see it getting worse.

 

[sb573]

Number 5 is definatly one to be worried about. I've had to many friends travel down that road its not a good road because it will progress and get worse. She needs professional help that is not something you can deal with she needs actual help.
that is something that is very scary and if she doesn't get help soon you may have a lot more problems.
My best friend died because of this, He started doing ti when he was mad and eventually it progressed to when he was sad and when he was drunk. he always though he was in control of it, he died because of loss of blood because he messed up and cut a little to deep and bleed to death.
I know thats dark and morbid but I believe you need to realise how SERIOUS cutting is.
Seek help and pray to god she'll be ok
Stacey

 

[DIVA_for_Christ]

I need HELP, I need advice.

My daughter just turned 16, is into a lot of evil things, wicca, thinks she is deaths angel, black, goth, punk, dark, depressing music, rebellion, thats just off the top of my head.

I have a 16 year old and when she was 15 this "beautiful" relationship we had turned into a NIGHTMARE. But like you, I have only been saved a lil bit over two years. So I wasn't training her up in GOd's ways. You need to realize that everything is cool with them in the beginning when they see the changes in our lives being manifested because of God. The problem comes in when it now has cause and effect in their lives. All the hell that is coming at you in God showing you He is working it out. He is literally bringing to surface all those hidden deliverances that you need to pray for her about. Now my daughter rebelled but just in different ways. As a single mom it hurt me deeply when my daughter lashed out at me and told me she wanted to live with her father. Don't get me wrong, although her father and I are not together, we get along. As a matter of fact, he is married and his wife and I are cool with one another. We conversate more than he and I do. But what really hurt was when God told me to let her go. The enemy had a field day with me telling me I'm a terrible mother and even God knows it, that's why He had her go stay with her father. For the first time in my life, I wanted to die. I entertained suicidal thoughts, thinking of how I could do it. But Praise God that I knew this wasn't me. After being molested and raped, etc and I never once had thoughts of killing myself, I'm entertaining the thought because God had my daughter go live with her dad? Didn't make any sense but I couldn't shake it. God even spoke to me and told me I'm answering your prayers, that it would end with you. That she would not hurt and suffer and make the same mistakes that I did all because my father wasn't there.

She claims to be saved to me, but Ive bought her books and she complains all they are about is God. I do buy her other books also, so I dont think I am shoving things down her throat. The last book i bought her was battlefield of the mind for teens. I want her to realize the things she is into are not from God.

Remember that this is a spiritual fight. Those spirits know what to say and who to say it too. Not saying that your daughter isn't saved because if see accepted Jesus then she is. However, like my daughter what she is doing is - running from God. She justs want to be a teenager and comments like that have nothing to do with you but who God has told her she is and her being scared to walk into her destiny. It can be intimidating to us as adults and you know children and teenagers can be cruel to one another. She justs wants to fit it but she needs to understand that she is separated and set apart. That can be hard to deal with as a teen when all you see is a bunch of rules and regulations that you have to obey. She feels like obeying God will strip her from having fun. Of course these are all lies fed to her by the enemy. As the adult, parent and spiritual leaders, you and your husband have to set guidelines, rules and regulations. You can not give into a teenagers tantrums and think that you are winning. I know it hurts to feel like your child can't stand you, but go through the process of the pain and realize that what you are instilling in her will save her life. She will thank you for it later.

When she is around me, she wants to start working towards being a Sunday School teacher, but once she is away from church and with her friends she is into all the stuff I mentioned.
I can not say ANYTHING to her about her friends, she is so full of attitude and anger if I do that.
Even when they treat her bad, she dont care.

You need to put your foot down. Do not tolerate this behaviour from your child. If she sees that she can manipulate and control you, you better believe that she will take full advantage of it. If these "friends" have such a negative impact on her, she doesn't not need to be around them. Go to God about this because He might have you have the friends come over to your house as the only way she can see them and no they can't be locked in the room, etc. They sound like they need to see Christ's love in you as well.

When I try to talk to her about anything, she doesnt listen and I find myself dictating instead of talking.
I am running out of time, she is 16 and claims she is going to get into even worse things next year.

Don' let the enemy have you doubt God for her deliverance!!! She is a teenager so you need to realize that some of this is just her being a "crazy teenager" but deal with everything especially the spiritual aspect by trusting God completely. And you need to know - YOU ARE A GOOD MOTHER!!! IF YOU WASN'T GOD WOULD HAVE NEVER TRUSTED YOU TO HAVE THESE CHILDREN.

She has no self respect for herself and no respect for anyone else. Dont matter who it is.

Noone around me, family etc want to help me, they just let her go on about the way she is. They dont try to persuade her, so I have NO help.

You are in a perfect situation for a miracle from God. Once we have no one to turn to other than God because we have exhausted all means, then God can not only show up but show out!!!!

If you have been through this how do I fix it.

Ive turned things over to God, but I know what its going to take on my end, because I cant deal with her being the way she is and around the younger kids, my other daughter which is only 10, is starting to act just like her (not all the stuff she is into, but lieing, attitude, rudeness) etc..

You need to speak the truth into both of your daughters. Prophecy into their lives. Pray for God to reveal to you any and all generational curses and speak generational blessings over your entire family.

Counseling doesnt work, cause she dotn want to go so she tells lies and laughs about it.

Any insight, help PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me.

Don't give up and don't give in. Trust God no matter how bad it may seem - remember the promise God made you - not only shall you be blessed, but your descendents shall be blessed as well.

 

[DawnTillery]

Number 5 is definatly one to be worried about. I've had to many friends travel down that road its not a good road because it will progress and get worse. She needs professional help that is not something you can deal with she needs actual help.
that is something that is very scary and if she doesn't get help soon you may have a lot more problems.
My best friend died because of this, He started doing ti when he was mad and eventually it progressed to when he was sad and when he was drunk. he always though he was in control of it, he died because of loss of blood because he messed up and cut a little to deep and bleed to death.
I know thats dark and morbid but I believe you need to realise how SERIOUS cutting is.
Seek help and pray to god she'll be ok
Stacey

Believe me I know how serious it is - she has been in counseling and to the emergency room numerous times.

We have even told her to come to us when she thinks she is going to cut, yell at us, scream, we dont care.. just dont cut. We have even told her if she cuts tell us, we will work through it. luckily she doesnt seem to be addicted to it like others are, she isnt using it but as a tool to drive me nuts and get her way. She has been at my sisters since May baby sitting and now at her grandmas and she hasnt cut as far as I know. I can usually tell if she does by the type of clothes she wears (cover herself up)

 

[Theogonia]

Dear DawnTillery


True COMFORT comes from GOD'S WORD. That is another reason we must have it locked in our heart.


GOD'S WORD says:


" TEACH THEM RIGHT WHILE THEY ARE YOUNG, THEY WILL VEER, BUT THEY SHALL RETURN TO THEIR TEACHINGS "


SO


Did you teach them right???

Do you believe GOD???


There's your answer!!!


Now let me say that I have 8 children. It worked EXACTLY like GOD told me it would.


The HOLY SPIRIT was very kind to me and let me know just before the bad times came that they would be coming. I can remember exactly where I was walking when that happened. GOD IS EVERYTHING!!!


Never be ashamed to CHASTIZE, GROUND, DENY PHONE CONTACT and GIVE EXTRA DUTY as a PRIZE for their actions. YOU MUST STAND YOUR GROUND!!!


You are NOT their friend. YOU are their mother, teacher, and COP!!!

FRIENDSHIP comes latter when they mature.


WHAT A JOY IT IS TO REMEMBER:




X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

You must have great kids if you don't think you're their friend.

Seriously, yes you're their teacher, but you can be that and a friend too.

 

[sunshineray]

I think it is really important to help her find a way to deal with depression and cutting herself. If she has stopped, then that's really great.

I also just wanted to say a bit about the way the has been behaving, dressing, etc. When I was 16 I was a brat. I think a lot of 16 year olds are. They feel as if they are grown up even though they aren't adults yet. I think sometimes when a teenager acts out it is their way of trying to make room between you and them for some independence. Obviously this behavior can be quite disruptive in a family, but most teens go through some sort of rebelling in these years, and I wouldn't take it as if she is necessarily going down the wrong path. When I was younger, my parents disagreed a lot with my dress or the music I liked or even some of the people I surrounded myself with. They used to yell at me and condemn me for my actions, no matter how innocent or just simply misguided they were. I remember wishing that my parents would just accept me for who I am. I don't think that the true issue should be about what clothes she wears or what make up she puts on or what music she listens to. Every person differs in their personal tastes when it comes to these things. I think the issue should be about where her heart is...

She says she wants to be a Sunday School teacher. I would accept what she is saying as the truth. Although she may not share a lot of interest in reading books about God right now, it does not mean that her heart is not with God. If I think about my younger brother who is 16, although he has a good, Godly heart, I know that the last thing he would be interested in right now is reading books about God and Christianity. Trying to shove these things down her throat may only be pushing her further from God. She is at a rebelling stage, where she is trying to create space between you and her. If she starts equating you with God, she may try to distance herself from God too. My suggestion would be to talk to her instead. Ask her what God is doing in her life right now. Ask her if she is mad at God or struggling with her relationships with God. Give her a soft place to fall, give her a friend to confide in about her struggles. Try not to be too authoritarian when it comes to the matters of God. Try to guide your daughter quietly, instead of of condeming her. You might see a change in how she acts towards you if she feels comfortable and accepted by you.

 

[sb573]

Has she tried a group therapy type of situation or the fear techinque (show her what can happen not just tell her) try to find her something new as an antistress or a buddy she can turn to when she feels like doing it. it doesn't even need to be a person that believes in god just someone she can open up to. like I don't know many 16year olds that will open up to there family.
Stacey

 

[DaniN]

I am too young to have a 16 yr old, but I do have a 16 yr old sister and she is into the same things....NOT GOOD! I have no other advice other than to get down on your knees and pray against those that would keep her captive, as a spirit created by God there is nothing more that she craves but to be near Christ, at his side wrapped in his love and those things that she is involved in are holding her capitve and making her distant and cold towards the love of God can only be conquered by the blood that was spilled when Jesus died for our sins. Pray with al your might and we will too! Love and prayers Dani.

I forgot to say that when I talk to my sis about God and stuff she is all in agreement and even contributes thoughts and opinions to the conversation, I have taken it as "oh good I think I might just get through to her" BUT now I think it is just a way that the devil shuts us up, if we think that "we might have reached them then we don't need to try so hard"

 

[Sharky]

I'm not a parent but I do witness to people and I learn a few things.


1. She's not saved. Period. Zing. Doesn't matter what she says, thinks or hides, she isn't according to the fruits you are mentioning. I know I'm a little blunt but hear me out.

Jesus says that unless we repent we will perish. As true christians, we do sin. But because we're a new creation, we hate it, we fall into sin, we loathe it day after day cringing at the sight of it.

However if she has no concern for sin, or fights against your warnings of her life in sin then that is a very bad sign.

Ask her if she's saved. If she says yes, then ask her 'what makes you think that'. She'll probably say things like 'oh i believe in God, i go to church, i pray all the time'. Be gentle, don't sound judgemental. Tell her gently that her life is proof she isn't saved and you are very concerned.

2. Warn her about the 10 commandments. Ask her if she's kept them. Ask her if she's going to heaven or hell.

3. Then gently tell her that she must repent and get right with God. The worst thing for anyone is to think that they're saved when they're not.

It's better to know flat you're not saved than to trick yourself into thinking you're going to heaven when you're not.

4. Give her the good news.

5. Discipline her. So many of us are too gentle to discipline our children. We're afraid they'll hate us. No, do it now while she's 16 please. I have a friend who turned out horrible, i'm not kidding, a complete sluggard because his parents won't discipline him.

Don't break her spirit but do continuously discipline her. Ground her, take away her allowance, shout and show her whos boss, be harsh but not abusive.

If you don't you will end up with another rebellious teenager in your hands I can promise you that.

Take it from a guy who has been disciplined continuously, the worst we can do is feel angry at you. I turned out alright, never got into drugs, smoking, or hung out with bad company mainly because i knew who's boss, my parents and their discipline shapes my attitude.

 

[bliz]

Wow, Sharkey! All they way from "down-under" you can tell from posts by the mother that this daughter is not a Christian? That's amazing! What a gift of discernment you have!

This is irresponsible of you!

 

[Randombitsofstring]

Dear DawnTillery


True COMFORT comes from GOD'S WORD. That is another reason we must have it locked in our heart.


GOD'S WORD says:


" TEACH THEM RIGHT WHILE THEY ARE YOUNG, THEY WILL VEER, BUT THEY SHALL RETURN TO THEIR TEACHINGS "


SO


Did you teach them right???

Do you believe GOD???


There's your answer!!!


Now let me say that I have 8 children. It worked EXACTLY like GOD told me it would.


The HOLY SPIRIT was very kind to me and let me know just before the bad times came that they would be coming. I can remember exactly where I was walking when that happened. GOD IS EVERYTHING!!!


Never be ashamed to CHASTIZE, GROUND, DENY PHONE CONTACT and GIVE EXTRA DUTY as a PRIZE for their actions. YOU MUST STAND YOUR GROUND!!!


You are NOT their friend. YOU are their mother, teacher, and COP!!!

FRIENDSHIP comes latter when they mature.


WHAT A JOY IT IS TO REMEMBER:




X Even though you can't see him, GOD is there!!! O
( click on the x and drag to the O ) ( then see who is with you ) steven

I’ve know many parents who were excellent Christians all though their lives and still had children turn out wrong. You seem to be forgetting that God gives us free will and sometimes that means that our children will exercise free will and do something we do not agree with. That doesn’t mean that the person was a bad parent or even a non-Christian parent.

 

[Theogonia]

I'm not a parent but I do witness to people and I learn a few things.


1. She's not saved. Period. Zing. Doesn't matter what she says, thinks or hides, she isn't according to the fruits you are mentioning. I know I'm a little blunt but hear me out.

Jesus says that unless we repent we will perish. As true christians, we do sin. But because we're a new creation, we hate it, we fall into sin, we loathe it day after day cringing at the sight of it.

However if she has no concern for sin, or fights against your warnings of her life in sin then that is a very bad sign.

Ask her if she's saved. If she says yes, then ask her 'what makes you think that'. She'll probably say things like 'oh i believe in God, i go to church, i pray all the time'. Be gentle, don't sound judgemental. Tell her gently that her life is proof she isn't saved and you are very concerned.

2. Warn her about the 10 commandments. Ask her if she's kept them. Ask her if she's going to heaven or hell.

3. Then gently tell her that she must repent and get right with God. The worst thing for anyone is to think that they're saved when they're not.

It's better to know flat you're not saved than to trick yourself into thinking you're going to heaven when you're not.

4. Give her the good news.

5. Discipline her. So many of us are too gentle to discipline our children. We're afraid they'll hate us. No, do it now while she's 16 please. I have a friend who turned out horrible, i'm not kidding, a complete sluggard because his parents won't discipline him.

Don't break her spirit but do continuously discipline her. Ground her, take away her allowance, shout and show her whos boss, be harsh but not abusive.

If you don't you will end up with another rebellious teenager in your hands I can promise you that.

Take it from a guy who has been disciplined continuously, the worst we can do is feel angry at you. I turned out alright, never got into drugs, smoking, or hung out with bad company mainly because i knew who's boss, my parents and their discipline shapes my attitude.

It sounds more to me like she's fed up with Christianity and rebelling against it.

To the OP: Are you very conservative or a fundamentalist?

Because if you are I feel that explains the problems with your daughter.

Not that you did anything wrong, but I believe she's sick of the overly strict lifestyle and is trying to break out by going the the extreme end.

Also how many other kids do you have? If she's the oldest of say, 5, that could also be the problem. The younger children are getting most of your attention, and she's not getting much or any of it.

So in that case it would be a way to get attention.

And what better way to get the attention of a christian mother than by getting into wicca? (Joking)

 

[AvgJoe]

I need HELP, I need advice.

My daughter just turned 16, is into a lot of evil things, wicca, thinks she is deaths angel, black, goth, punk, dark, depressing music, rebellion, thats just off the top of my head.

She claims to be saved to me, but Ive bought her books and she complains all they are about is God. I do buy her other books also, so I dont think I am shoving things down her throat. The last book i bought her was battlefield of the mind for teens. I want her to realize the things she is into are not from God.

When she is around me, she wants to start working towards being a Sunday School teacher, but once she is away from church and with her friends she is into all the stuff I mentioned.
I can not say ANYTHING to her about her friends, she is so full of attitude and anger if I do that.
Even when they treat her bad, she dont care.

When I try to talk to her about anything, she doesnt listen and I find myself dictating instead of talking.
I am running out of time, she is 16 and claims she is going to get into even worse things next year.

She has no self respect for herself and no respect for anyone else. Dont matter who it is.

Noone around me, family etc want to help me, they just let her go on about the way she is. They dont try to persuade her, so I have NO help.

If you have been through this how do I fix it.

Ive turned things over to God, but I know what its going to take on my end, because I cant deal with her being the way she is and around the younger kids, my other daughter which is only 10, is starting to act just like her (not all the stuff she is into, but lieing, attitude, rudeness) etc..

Counseling doesnt work, cause she dotn want to go so she tells lies and laughs about it.

Any insight, help PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me.

If I were in your shoes, it would be my continual prayer that God would bring about the circumstance(s)/event(s), in my child's life, that will cause them to turn to Jesus. God knows the exact situation, or chain of events, that will bring each person to Christ.