• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Are there any TE's who used to be YEC's?

Status
Not open for further replies.

dukeofhazzard

Regular Member
Aug 15, 2007
498
57
✟23,418.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Private
I was wondering, has anyone here previously been a YEC? If so, I'm curious as to what caused you to "cross over" so to speak, to TE. Now, I'm looking for people who used to actually believe in YEC -- this isn't a discussion about why you NEVER would believe such rubbish :).

Basically I want, “I used to believe YEC, but now I believe in TE because… XYZ”.

For me, it was a number of things (which I’m sure will be true of most of you) but the really funny thing is what pushed me over the edge. In my quest for knowledge about the Bible and creation I began watching Dr. Baugh and reading websites of other creationists.



Some of the claims were so outright outrageous I was forced to REALLY delve deeper into it and found that many claims made were false. For instance, the supposed dinosaur footprint alongside the human footprint in Glenrose Texas was false. They are still proclaiming it as valid despite MUCH evidence to the contrary, even photographic proof that this was manmade. That made me question EVERYTHING they said.



Many myths later, I realized I couldn’t trust these people – and while I’m still not sure of the ins and outs of TE, I haven’t found any lies so far ;).

What about you?
 

Deamiter

I just follow Christ.
Nov 10, 2003
5,226
347
Visit site
✟32,525.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I know they exist and given a few days, you'll get a few responses, but I'll mention my own experience with YEC.

I generally accepted old age in high school, but didn't know or care much about evolution. I was raised Christian, but not creationist and didn't really realize that creationists existed. In my conservative Christian university, many professors were creationist and I was particularly led to tentatively accept YEC based on the existence of polonium halos that "couldn't" have been produced except in an extremely rapid cooling of granite.

Of course, a few months later I found that they weren't actually polonium halos but likely produced by radon and that the researchers claiming it was polonium didn't document their finds (so they could be repeated) or even bother to publish or respond to criticism.

Of course, now the AIG/DI people have changed their tune and instead of claiming that polonium halos are evidence of a young earth, they pretend that scientists have used them as evidence of an OLD earth and show the very same thing scientists were showing all along -- that these halos can be produced by radon -- a decay product of uranium.

I do find the shift rather disingenuous because I've never seen AIG or ICR mention that they are disagreeing with earlier creationist claims. That this shift is one of the first obvious ones I've come across in my lifetime (in the last few years really) makes it huge to me because I personally read articles at AIG/ICR supporting polonium halos as evidence of a young earth and now find these same groups writing articles about how the halos are being constantly generated. It's amazing to me how they can flip their position and say the opposite and STILL claim that in both cases, scientists were wrong and creationists were right.

But I'm getting off-topic. I flirted with the idea of YEC, but found the evidence quite unsatisfying.
 
Upvote 0

MrSnow

Senior Member
May 30, 2007
891
89
✟23,977.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I was YEC in my younger days (not that I'm exactly "old" now) because I was taught that either God created the universe or it all "evolved"; that evolution was synonomous with atheism. For a short while I was a Gap proponent (due to a particular Bible "scholar" who had his own brand of exegesis). Then I was OEC, mostly because I still had misconceptions of what evolution actually is. Now I have stopped looking to Scripture to be a science text book and have allowed the universe to tell its own story.
 
Upvote 0

Fed

Veteran
Dec 24, 2004
2,296
78
37
CA
✟25,341.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Others
Yeah, I watched some Hovind videos maybe 6-7 years ago so I guess I was a YEC at that point. Even at that young age I suspected there were problems, especially since I was an astronomy buff and the light explanations made no sense to me. Over the years as I learned more about origins YEC seemed more and more absurd. About 3 years ago I joined this forum as undecided on origins, but quickly changed my mind and so for the past few years I've been a TE. I never played around with OEC or ID or gap theories - once I realized the evidence was conclusive, it was over. Ironically, it wasn't so much the obvious evidence for evolution that convinced me first but rather the illogical and often hilarious creationist responses to critique.
 
Upvote 0

peteos

Regular Member
Jul 16, 2007
449
51
Texas
✟23,358.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
I have been opposed to evolution since the first time I heard about it as a child. But I was only the Y in YEC through my high school days, after attending a YEC conference. Before that I believed in a literal Adam and Eve and the garden and the fall 6k years ago, but also believed the dinasaurs roamed the earth 65 million years ago, and I guess they were eating each other and dying; but I never seemed to notice this inconsistency in my thinking.

I was also strongly opposed to the BIG Bang, since the Big Bang taught that there was no God and everything in the universe just happened to be, or so I thought.

In college I was exposed to nuclear physics, radiometric dating, etc, and basically glided peacefully back to my old earth position. God must have had seperate creation events through time. Actually, I glided to a "I don't care" position. I was much more interested in girls, especially the ones alive today, and not so much where they came from:D

The age of the earth was one thing, but I was still strongly opposed to evolution. I understood natural selection and didn't have a problem with that, but I thought the Bible was authoratative on this matter and that was that.

Between college and last year I hadn't given it a whole lot of thought, except to be made uncomfterable every time the issue came up regarding public schools, since I had two children with the most fantastic woman God saw fit to put on this earth. But I did have an ever growing interest in science, especially physics. I purchased used textbooks on a variety of subjects, physics, meterology, pschology, chemistry, geology ect, and read a good deal of them. And something started to bother me. How could these scientists be so right about one subject, such as general relativity, and so utterly wrong about something that is so much less subtle, like evolution. Yet still, I persisted.

Until finnally last summer when a YEC speaker came to our church. He did a 12 part series of which I only attended 2 of them. In one, a summary, he bashed the old earth position, and I could tell he didn't understand radiometric dating. But it had been a long time for me as well, so I decided to go restudy the issue to see what I would find.

But even as I began, I knew their was a big elephant in the room, a big huge E shaped elephent, named evolution. I knew even before I began that if I began to study the issue I would have to confront the theory of evolution. It only took several days to reconvince myself on the age of the earth, but as I started to look at evolution, I resisted with all my years of resistence. I began reading several books, one of which was Erst Myers "What evolution is". Myers does not try to defend evolution in that book, but he made a startling claim that really finnally put the whole question into a new light. He said, "scientists are not trying to debate whether evolution took place. They are debating HOW it took place, not WHETHER. THAT it took place is readily evident in nature". Okay, that was a total paraphrase and I probably slaughtered it. But it focused the question. Forget the probability, the odds, the philophical objections. What was the evidence that it took place at all, why would anybody think it did in the first place. Veterans would readily reconginze this as the fact of evolution vs theory of evolution dichtomy. But I began exploring and landed on this essay.

http://www.freethoughtdebater.com/FEvolutionCase.htm

It is a very clear explanation of what the evidence for evolution taking place really is, introducing the nested heirchy and how it is colloborating through morphology, genetics, fossils, biogeophaphy, etc. I remember exactly where I was sitting when I read this and finnally got it. I was at the top of my stairs. I was overwelmed. I was both excited and very scared. I remember that moment when it hit me, that evolution was indeed a reality.

My in-laws were in town, and if they had found out they would have retroactivly dissolved my marriage with their daughter, so I kept things quiet. I kept them quiet for several months until my pastor commented about some of my evolution books on my shelf (which I hadn't cracked btw, but I continue), and though I gave a somewhat misleading response at the time, it encouraged me to restudy it again. More and more evidence seem to pour in, starting with the 29+ evidences for macroevolution on talk.origins, and then after that, it just seemed to be everywhere.

Because I was in a position of authority in my church, I thought it right to tell my pastor. He has taken it pretty well, but it is still up in the air. Issues regarding our statement of faith (which I hadn't even signed yet and would need to shortly), and several other issues have weigh'ed heavily on me. To sum up this portion, my church is completly YEC (or at least OEC), and for the most part no body has studied it or really cares. But it still weighs on me and I stay in the closet for the most part.

As for myself, I have began to struggle with my view of the Bible, I can comment on that in another thread. I will just sum up how this all weighs on me in a few short hits

1) I have no philosphical objections to evolution. I am still in the image of God if that it was He declared. God can work through natural and supernatural means, and they would often be indistiguishable.

2) I am in a position of authority in my church, for one, leading a Bible study with people who if they found out would probably leave. This concerns me.

3) I probably would be asked to be an elder in my church in five years or so, but that won't happen if I have this position. I am not terribly concerned with this, except to highlight that I am really not fully accepted within this community.

4) What do I tell my children about Adam and Eve.

5) My in-laws finding out. My brothers finding out (I have told my sisters, they are much more open to this kind of thing and don't really care).

6) What other parts of the OT are myth, metaphorical, allegory, etc? Noah? Babel? Abraham?

Well, I won't bore you any longer. The list is probably endless.
 
Upvote 0

dukeofhazzard

Regular Member
Aug 15, 2007
498
57
✟23,418.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Private
I have been opposed to evolution since the first time I heard about it as a child. But I was only the Y in YEC through my high school days, after attending a YEC conference. Before that I believed in a literal Adam and Eve and the garden and the fall 6k years ago, but also believed the dinasaurs roamed the earth 65 million years ago, and I guess they were eating each other and dying; but I never seemed to notice this inconsistency in my thinking.

I was also strongly opposed to the BIG Bang, since the Big Bang taught that there was no God and everything in the universe just happened to be, or so I thought.

In college I was exposed to nuclear physics, radiometric dating, etc, and basically glided peacefully back to my old earth position. God must have had seperate creation events through time. Actually, I glided to a "I don't care" position. I was much more interested in girls, especially the ones alive today, and not so much where they came from:D

The age of the earth was one thing, but I was still strongly opposed to evolution. I understood natural selection and didn't have a problem with that, but I thought the Bible was authoratative on this matter and that was that.

Between college and last year I hadn't given it a whole lot of thought, except to be made uncomfterable every time the issue came up regarding public schools, since I had two children with the most fantastic woman God saw fit to put on this earth. But I did have an ever growing interest in science, especially physics. I purchased used textbooks on a variety of subjects, physics, meterology, pschology, chemistry, geology ect, and read a good deal of them. And something started to bother me. How could these scientists be so right about one subject, such as general relativity, and so utterly wrong about something that is so much less subtle, like evolution. Yet still, I persisted.

Until finnally last summer when a YEC speaker came to our church. He did a 12 part series of which I only attended 2 of them. In one, a summary, he bashed the old earth position, and I could tell he didn't understand radiometric dating. But it had been a long time for me as well, so I decided to go restudy the issue to see what I would find.

But even as I began, I knew their was a big elephant in the room, a big huge E shaped elephent, named evolution. I knew even before I began that if I began to study the issue I would have to confront the theory of evolution. It only took several days to reconvince myself on the age of the earth, but as I started to look at evolution, I resisted with all my years of resistence. I began reading several books, one of which was Erst Myers "What evolution is". Myers does not try to defend evolution in that book, but he made a startling claim that really finnally put the whole question into a new light. He said, "scientists are not trying to debate whether evolution took place. They are debating HOW it took place, not WHETHER. THAT it took place is readily evident in nature". Okay, that was a total paraphrase and I probably slaughtered it. But it focused the question. Forget the probability, the odds, the philophical objections. What was the evidence that it took place at all, why would anybody think it did in the first place. Veterans would readily reconginze this as the fact of evolution vs theory of evolution dichtomy. But I began exploring and landed on this essay.

http://www.freethoughtdebater.com/FEvolutionCase.htm

It is a very clear explanation of what the evidence for evolution taking place really is, introducing the nested heirchy and how it is colloborating through morphology, genetics, fossils, biogeophaphy, etc. I remember exactly where I was sitting when I read this and finnally got it. I was at the top of my stairs. I was overwelmed. I was both excited and very scared. I remember that moment when it hit me, that evolution was indeed a reality.

My in-laws were in town, and if they had found out they would have retroactivly dissolved my marriage with their daughter, so I kept things quiet. I kept them quiet for several months until my pastor commented about some of my evolution books on my shelf (which I hadn't cracked btw, but I continue), and though I gave a somewhat misleading response at the time, it encouraged me to restudy it again. More and more evidence seem to pour in, starting with the 29+ evidences for macroevolution on talk.origins, and then after that, it just seemed to be everywhere.

Because I was in a position of authority in my church, I thought it right to tell my pastor. He has taken it pretty well, but it is still up in the air. Issues regarding our statement of faith (which I hadn't even signed yet and would need to shortly), and several other issues have weigh'ed heavily on me. To sum up this portion, my church is completly YEC (or at least OEC), and for the most part no body has studied it or really cares. But it still weighs on me and I stay in the closet for the most part.

As for myself, I have began to struggle with my view of the Bible, I can comment on that in another thread. I will just sum up how this all weighs on me in a few short hits

1) I have no philosphical objections to evolution. I am still in the image of God if that it was He declared. God can work through natural and supernatural means, and they would often be indistiguishable.

2) I am in a position of authority in my church, for one, leading a Bible study with people who if they found out would probably leave. This concerns me.

3) I probably would be asked to be an elder in my church in five years or so, but that won't happen if I have this position. I am not terribly concerned with this, except to highlight that I am really not fully accepted within this community.

4) What do I tell my children about Adam and Eve.

5) My in-laws finding out. My brothers finding out (I have told my sisters, they are much more open to this kind of thing and don't really care).

6) What other parts of the OT are myth, metaphorical, allegory, etc? Noah? Babel? Abraham?

Well, I won't bore you any longer. The list is probably endless.
Wow. So I'm not the only one with all the unresolved questions and issues once the evolution question is answered? Good to know! :) My husband doesn't even know... I'm not sure he'll even care, I just want to understand it more fully myself before I start that conversation ;)
 
Upvote 0

Tinker Grey

Wanderer
Site Supporter
Feb 6, 2002
11,720
6,244
Erewhon
Visit site
✟1,132,127.00
Faith
Atheist
1) I have no philosphical objections to evolution. I am still in the image of God if that it was He declared. God can work through natural and supernatural means, and they would often be indistiguishable.
Agreed.

2) I am in a position of authority in my church, for one, leading a Bible study with people who if they found out would probably leave. This concerns me.
Ditto. I am an elder. Some of the problem is solved as I establish relationship with each person. One person I know really well, I haven't broached the subject with since neither he nor his wife could handle it. Another whom I've known less long knows, but his wife doesn't (AFAIK).

It's kind of a piecemeal deal. The guy I referred to above who knows, also is wise enough to know that spreading this around is not productive.

I think that now, after years of building relationship, most could handle it -- even if they didn't like it.
3) I probably would be asked to be an elder in my church in five years or so, but that won't happen if I have this position. I am not terribly concerned with this, except to highlight that I am really not fully accepted within this community.
The subject didn't come up in my interview. We have no statements on the subject. There could be deal-breakers in our church, but doctrinal purity is not one of them -- yet. We've been more concerned with discernable maturity, caring, and shepherding skills.

Over the upcoming years, I imagine that some of the issues may become carved in stone ... but if they ever decide to carve into stone a creation platform, I'll quit. The issue wouldn't be that they favored creationism, but that they were silly enough to make it an issue.

4) What do I tell my children about Adam and Eve.
For us, this has fallen out naturally as education progresses.

5) My in-laws finding out. My brothers finding out (I have told my sisters, they are much more open to this kind of thing and don't really care).
My in-laws know. My parents and brother do not. I've decided that this is one battle I'm not going to fight.

(Interestingly, my nephew is rebelling right now. I got permission to invite him to talk to me via email with the proviso that my brother understands that it is private. One of the first things we discussed was CvE ... so now he knows. I may yet need to talk to my brother about it.)


HTH
 
Upvote 0

peteos

Regular Member
Jul 16, 2007
449
51
Texas
✟23,358.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
My husband doesn't even know... I'm not sure he'll even care, I just want to understand it more fully myself before I start that conversation

I wasn't really upfront with my wife about the whole thing at first, I usually kept her a few months behind what I really thought. She grew up in a strong YEC envioroment, though such things haven't concerned her for more then a decade (now raising two children is her chief concern). She has also been married long enough to me to be a little more open to other ideas and less quick to be judgemental. However, I wasn't ready just to spill it on her, so I didn't say much as I was first exploring it. By the time I was convined I was relating how I thought the evidence looked better then I had thought. By the time I was completly convinced I was presenting it more like I was exploring the issue. In fact, it was only about two or three weeks ago when I finnally stated I thought it was a fact, and that I would have to live my life now within that reality. For instance, if my leadership did confront me and ask to take a stand, I would assert common descent was a reality and accept the consequences.

My wife is very much like me in that she doesn't really have any philophical hangups, though I know she hasn't thought it out much either. My wife is much more concerned with the social aspect, how our local church will view us or what fall out there might be. She hates the idea that others think we simply lack faith or are simply not mature Christians. My wife has somewhat thrown her hat in with me, though she doesn't study science and has no desire to do so. She respects me and feels if I believe evolution is a reality then there must be a good reason.
 
Upvote 0

peteos

Regular Member
Jul 16, 2007
449
51
Texas
✟23,358.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
My parents and brother do not. I've decided that this is one battle I'm not going to fight.


My family is pretty non-confrontational, so it wouldn't be a huge deal. My sisters are already on the inside. My younger brother is an onfire Christian who has changed dramatically over the last several years, and it is probably pretty important to him though he wouldn't pretend to be aware of the science. My older brother is a Ph.D in mathematics, and generally a very intelligent guy, who at one time was a YEC advocate though I suspect he is old earth or doesn't care now. He would be pretty surprised, but I feel he respects me enough that he would listen and I think I could even convince him.

My in-laws, that is something else. They are complete YEC's, who feel all modern science is bunk, including all modern medicine. My father-in-law, bless is soul, doesn't believe physicsts on perpetucal motion machines, and is trying today (been going on for several years) to create power through the use of rotating magnets. They would be very concerned to find out, indeed, I suspect that might question my very salvation. I don't plan to ever bring up the subject with them...ever.
 
Upvote 0

Mallon

Senior Veteran
Mar 6, 2006
6,109
297
✟30,402.00
Faith
Lutheran
Marital Status
Private
Sounds like your conversion to evolutionary creationism has given you a tough time, peteos, not unlike myself. Accepting evolution raises all sorts of questions relating to death and salvation from a YEC perspective. As someone who's on the same journey, I can confidently say the answers are there, though it may take some time to shake the entrenched YEC worldview to see them. If you're interested in tackling such questions head-on, there's an excellent blog dedicated to discussion on those very topics:
http://evanevodialogue.blogspot.com/
I've only been reading it for a few weeks, but it has proven very enriching so far.
 
Upvote 0

Mick116

Regular Member
Jul 14, 2004
653
51
44
✟25,375.00
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
I was a Young Earth Creationist in my high school and first-year university days... I remember debating another student in my high school chemistry class, and in my first year of uni I even questioned evolution on an online forum for my plant biology class.

I don't remember exactly when I started believing YEC... certainly as a young child I was keenly interested in nature, collecting rocks and insects, watching natural history documentaries, and like many children I was fascinated by dinosaurs; I took for granted that the earth was very old, because that's what TV, school, and those presentations at the national parks taught me.

I guess things changed when I became a Christian in my early teen years. My first church was an open "Plymouth" brethren assembly... YECism is pretty much the norm in those circles. I began reading Creation magazines from Answers in Genesis, and the assembly hosted several talks by creationist "evangelists". I swallowed this stuff, hook, line and sinker.

Come second year university of a degree in ecology, and I could no longer ignore the centrality of evolutionary theory to pretty much all of biology... what made me cross over from YEC to TE? An education. This, and the realisation that evidence for evolution and an ancient universe was much easier to come by than evidence for complete biblical inerrancy.
 
Upvote 0

staveoffzombies

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2006
710
33
40
Near Dayton, Ohio
✟23,542.00
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
I was raised in a very conservative household. My father was/is a Baptist pastor, and once I turned ten my mother became a Christian school elementary teacher. Growing up I was taught that evolution was a big, crazy lie; and that it wasn't really scientific...and pretty much every other cliched argument.

I attended a conservative Christian school, and I remember watching Kent Hovind videotapes in one of my high school science classes.

I even attended a very conservative Christian college for almost two years.

In other words....I was raised as the perfect model of a YEC.

Despite my upbringing I had never really conformed to the Fundie-model...I wasn't a "rebellious for the sake of being rebellious" kind of person, but rather someone who tended to question everything and take things with a healthy amount of skepticism. For whatever reason, however, I had pretty much swallowed the YEC creationist argument.

Eventually I moved out, moved to Ohio, and got married to a wonderful girl I had met while in college. It was then that I re-examined several more areas of my faith (in previous years I had gone through several re-evaluations of what I believed, but I had never really touched on the origins issue).

I started exploring sites such as talk.origins and such, trying to find out why Evolution was so universally accepted. And one by one the various creationist arguments were being deconstructed before m very eyes. However, it is very difficult to shake a belief in which you were raised. The final nail in the coffin for me was the book "Finding Darwin's God, A Scientists Search For Common Ground Between God and Evolution" by Kenneth R. Miller.

In this book all the different theories and evolutionary models and mechanisms were explained in a clear and easy to follow manner. That, coupled with the fact that the man writing the book was a Christian, and that he made a compelling argument FOR the existence of God; had me hooked.

I had finally come to terms with my Christianity and Evolution, and i felt confident enough to hold my own if any YEC tried to challenge my beliefs. It's still an uphill battle, I haven't shared my beliefs on this matter with either my parents of my in-laws...simply because I know they'd be thinking I went off the deep end and I don't want the headache that the arguments would bring.

My wife is still a tentative YEC...but she isn't really that solid on it, and it's never caused any problems between the two of us.

So, that's where I come from.
 
Upvote 0

Gukkor

Senior Veteran
Jun 14, 2006
2,137
128
Visit site
✟25,702.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Single
I was vaguely YEC when I was a small child, but my family wasn't particularly religious at that point so I wasn't clear on the details or aware of evolution's existence as a theory. When I was in middle school I started to shift to OEC, which I later discovered was the "official" position of my parents. Right around the time I hit high school, I made the jump to TE, and while my parents disagree with me, it's not a source of any real conflict in our relationship. The most that ever comes of it is my father and I exchanging internet articles supporting our respective opinions, then not reading them because we're both lazy like that.
 
Upvote 0

pamaris

Member
Aug 1, 2005
98
3
48
✟15,233.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Libertarian
I was definitely raised YEC, though it wasn't a "salvation issue". I heard all the pseudoscientific arguments I accepted them for the most part until about 3 years ago.

After I read "Beyond the Cosmos" by Hugh Ross, I read lots of articles on his website ([SIZE=-1]www.reasons.org)[/SIZE]. I was convinced of OEC at that point. When I read "The Language of God" by Frances Collins I thought Wow, there is more to this evolution thing than I have been taught. Then I read the articles debunking the debunkers at www.answersincreation.org. Honestly, at this point I don't have the patience or the scientific competence to cross every t and dot every i but it has been very enlightening to find that I don't have to subscribe to a predetermined extra biblical belief system (with ramifications in politics and science) in order to follow Jesus. Phew.
 
Upvote 0

DrStupid_Ben

Regular Member
Apr 22, 2006
424
13
Cenral Coast, NSW
✟23,105.00
Faith
SDA
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
AU-Democrats
Well, I was a YEC through high school. It was when I started taking Hebrew and OT classes (and other theology classes) that I really questioned the whole thing. I'm not a scientist and I don't usually have the time to get into the literature so I don't have everything figured out in that department. As others in this thread have said, there are alot of questions when you start to change a big thing like creation.

I'm pretty careful about letting one particular type of science inform my theology. I think God speaks to us in our cultural setting - and I include science in our cultural setting. From reading Genesis and studying hebrew and hebrew culture at uni, I have come to the conclusion that the writers of Genesis were using the science of their time to interpret the mystery of God. So I guess that we could use the science of our own time to interpret the mystery of God, but I don't think that what we come up with in this age will be the final word on the matter. Who knows what changes to scientific theories will come in the next hundred years.

Overall, I think I agree to a certain extent with John Calvin - God accommodates himself to the mind of the believer. The Hebrews looked up and saw a dome with water above the stars, so God was able to use that to affirm that he alone was the creator of it all, not the gods of the Egyptians or the Babylonians or the Caananites etc.

As I said, I am still dealing with the many questions.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.