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Are tatoos wrong?

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I do not care if it was a ten billion dollar house, if the graffiti glorified God, then So be it! Glorifying God is more important than any amount of material possessions! I know what you meant, but this thread is about if tatoos are wrong or not, not if someone thinks that tatoos are unsightly. I think it is a personal idealogy between the person and God. They are other scriptures beside Leviticus that would lead one to believe that they are wrong, but those were mosaic laws given to jews. The mosaic laws were abolished in Christ such as Exodus 21:24 is replaced by Matthew 5:38-39, and Leviticus about what to eat and what not to eat which was changed in Acts chapter 11. So it really just goes to the person's personal convictions, I think. Oh, and by the way, I do not have any tatoos, but I have been studying on this for several months now, for I desire to have one, but I also desire to please God. What I have wriiten above Is my findings. God bless!!!
 
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GolgothaDivine said:
I do not care if it was a ten billion dollar house, if the graffiti glorified God, then So be it! Glorifying God is more important than any amount of material possessions!
If you ever defaced my house whether to please man or god, I'd take enough legal action to own your house in the end.

With that said, no, I don't think tattoos are a sin, just make sure you are picking a tattoo that will always represent you. Don't get a nazi tattoo so that you have to get it removed when you find out your significant other is Jewish;)
 
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gimlisgrl said:
What do believers think about tatoos? Some say they are fine, others taboo and other say it is a sin; what do you think?



Yes, tatoos are wrong, for no matter what they are supposed to represent, they are still a destruction of the Temple of God. What you are born with in reference is what you are to die with. If the Lord wanted us to

"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple." 1 Cor 3:16-17


Now, not just tatoos are bad for you. Anything that can bring harm to the body is not to be consumed into the Lord's temple. Though, in this day and age, who can live without caffeine?
 
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christianmarine said:
Yes, tatoos are wrong, for no matter what they are supposed to represent, they are still a destruction of the Temple of God. What you are born with in reference is what you are to die with. If the Lord wanted us to

"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple." 1 Cor 3:16-17


Now, not just tatoos are bad for you. Anything that can bring harm to the body is not to be consumed into the Lord's temple. Though, in this day and age, who can live without caffeine?


Seems to me Caffeine would be much worse than tattoos.

Caffeine is addictive, and can make you ill. Caffeine would be something you would be doing to your body day after day, year after year on a constant basis, where as a tattoo would be something you do once.

Of course we always make excuses for the things we ourselves decide to indulge in.
 
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christianmarine said:
Yes, tatoos are wrong, for no matter what they are supposed to represent, they are still a destruction of the Temple of God. What you are born with in reference is what you are to die with. If the Lord wanted us to

"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple." 1 Cor 3:16-17


Now, not just tatoos are bad for you. Anything that can bring harm to the body is not to be consumed into the Lord's temple. Though, in this day and age, who can live without caffeine?
How precisely are tattoos destruction? I'd see it more as buying a building to worship in (or inheriting it, or whatever you like to improve the analogy), taking the regular windows out, and replacing them with stained glass ones. Do you have a problem with decorations for a place of worship?
 
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Blackmarch said:
Would you want graffitti on your 90 million dollar house, even if it's praises to god?

Isn't that up to the person who owns the house? One man's graffitti is another man's art (or woman, as the case may be).

It's all opinion.

I have 4 tattoos. None are offensive in anyway. If you don't like them, then don't get one. But to say a tattoo is against the will of God is a stretch at best. It is no different that changing one's hair color, toe nail color, or getting a "mystic" spray tan. It alters your appearance in some way, yes, but so what?

It is no different that wearing a piece of jewelery. Even tattoos can be removed. I mean, really, what is the big deal?

If you don't like them, then don't get one. But please, let's not manipulate God to fit one's own opinions.
 
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I don't mind if you do, but the bible does state that our bodies are temples...
So would you want graffitti that praises god on a 90 million dollar house that's yours?

It'd be cool as all get out to have a mural on the side of a house. Tattoos aren't graffiti; they're art.
 
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Prince Lucianus said:
Since you post this in the ALL MEMBERS SECTION I'll reply anyway.

I have several tattoo's and have seen many pictures in tattoo books. Many have religious topics or are about Jesus.
So, as a praise to god, I think they're okay for a Christian.

Lucy

Having a 'religious tattoo' is NOT a proof of your spirituality. In fact, it tells otherwise. The bible has mentioned the use of tattoos and the reason for doing it, or for not doing it for that matter.

No matter how many tattoo crosses and Jesus' name, all over the body is not proof of anything but instead, implying that God has made a mistake by not creating YOU with tattoos! I prefer unblemished skin which God has for us. Just like when in the OT times, one has to choose an animal sacrifice that was not blemished. Does God really care if christians have tattoos? Is it a commandment to have tattoos? If no, then why are you spending $$ and time and pain doing it? Isn't there other better things to do for others?

And having a tattoo is by no means cheap and painless. Pagans and Satan worshippers do that too, and why are you as christians any different than they are?

How can it be 'as a praise to god' when in Rom. 12: 1-2 says, "I appeal to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

With this, tattoo is the least thing a christian should think about. Having tattoo does not prove the will of God at all. As simple as that to understand! Whether it's a sin or not, well, as long as the SELF-centeredness is concerned, instead of God's, it is sin.
 
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Not all tattoos are cheap graffiti. I just got one of these:

vajra1.jpg


(this isn't a picture of my tattoo, mine is on my left forearm. It's just the only picture of this artwork I could find, apparently the author Alex Gray took that picture out of his gallery)
 
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precious stone said:
Having a 'religious tattoo' is NOT a proof of your spirituality. In fact, it tells otherwise. The bible has mentioned the use of tattoos and the reason for doing it, or for not doing it for that matter.

Where did I say that having a tattoo is proof of spirituality?
Furthermore, where does the bible speak of tattoos?

precious stone said:
How can it be 'as a praise to god' when in Rom. 12: 1-2 says, "I appeal to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

With this, tattoo is the least thing a christian should think about. Having tattoo does not prove the will of God at all. As simple as that to understand! Whether it's a sin or not, well, as long as the SELF-centeredness is concerned, instead of God's, it is sin.

With this, I would sustain from anything which has to do with your body. Earrings, make up etc. Making your temple more beautifull is obviously not what god wants.
Thank Cthulhu I'm an atheist.

Lucy
 
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it seems like the arguement, at least from 'precious stone' is this: god made the body perfectly. to tattoo a body is to alter it. to alter a body is to deserate it because it changes God's perfect design.

for the purpose of this arguement, i'll assume that there is no such thing as a "perfect design" in a universal sense, only in a personal one. i state this because i think it's very likely that a christian would say that even if a human is created with an "error," like a missing arm or something, this would still be the "perfect" body for that particular person.

what if a person was born with a heart-valve defect? would it be an implication that God "made a mistake" if this was repaired to keep the person from dying?

and for the arguement that satanists and pagans do this, and christians are no better if they do it, well... satan worshippers probably eat peanut butter and jelly sandwiches from time to time. should a christian avoid doing this, so as not to engage in an activity also practiced by satanists?

i am not a christian. i should think that you, as a christian, have more in your life to differentiate yourself from a satanist than something as trivial as not having a tattoo.
 
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precious stone said:
No matter how many tattoo crosses and Jesus' name, all over the body is not proof of anything but instead, implying that God has made a mistake by not creating YOU with tattoos!
Wouldn't creating us with tattoos be a violation of free will? If God puts a tattoo of a band logo on someone who isn't even old enough to realize he likes that particular band, wouldn't that essentially be a declaration that he is destined to become a fan of that band? Destiny or fate is a concept which is clearly opposed to free will.
 
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precious stone said:
Having a 'religious tattoo' is NOT a proof of your spirituality. In fact, it tells otherwise. The bible has mentioned the use of tattoos and the reason for doing it, or for not doing it for that matter.

No matter how many tattoo crosses and Jesus' name, all over the body is not proof of anything but instead, implying that God has made a mistake by not creating YOU with tattoos! I prefer unblemished skin which God has for us. Just like when in the OT times, one has to choose an animal sacrifice that was not blemished. Does God really care if christians have tattoos? Is it a commandment to have tattoos? If no, then why are you spending $$ and time and pain doing it? Isn't there other better things to do for others?

And having a tattoo is by no means cheap and painless. Pagans and Satan worshippers do that too, and why are you as christians any different than they are?

How can it be 'as a praise to god' when in Rom. 12: 1-2 says, "I appeal to you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect."

With this, tattoo is the least thing a christian should think about. Having tattoo does not prove the will of God at all. As simple as that to understand! Whether it's a sin or not, well, as long as the SELF-centeredness is concerned, instead of God's, it is sin.

I hope you don't wear any earrings or cross necklaces...
 
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christianmarine said:
Yes, tatoos are wrong, for no matter what they are supposed to represent, they are still a destruction of the Temple of God. What you are born with in reference is what you are to die with. If the Lord wanted us to

"Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple." 1 Cor 3:16-17


Now, not just tatoos are bad for you. Anything that can bring harm to the body is not to be consumed into the Lord's temple. Though, in this day and age, who can live without caffeine?

Driving a gasoline powered car causes more harm to our body and our planet than a body size tatoo.
 
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