Stryder06 what is your position on homosexuality as it relates to the above statement.
It's an abomination. People in that lifestyle need prayer. What are you getting at?
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Stryder06 what is your position on homosexuality as it relates to the above statement.
That's not logical--those who make the claim have the burden of proof.* You assumed that it was true, therefore the burden lies with you.I just posted an article I found on the net... it is your job to disprove it...
See previous post. Last question is irrelevant.BTW do you have prove for the contrary?
otherwise I think I am innocent unless proven otherwise...
Do you know Paulson personally? if so, go ahead and ask him, I dont know the dude, so I cant really ask him...
Under God: Seventh-Day Adventists and abortion - Julia Duin
according to this article SDAs are the only ones who are involved in murder... hope I am not gonna throw up today as the mere thought is disgusting to me, I mean I have spent a lot of time in the church not knowing about mass murder being practiced... there were times that I even gave some of my money for some hospital projects... not knowing that this money is gonna be used to erect some facilities that will kill the unborn...
but to my excuse I can say that I didnt know... maybe I should have done some research but Hey, who would suspect that is taking place...
I told my mother yesterday... she couldnt believe it at first... that was about that Feldkamp butcher... she knew the story about that plane crash and how God made it happen in order to send out a warning to all those abortionists...
but when I told her that it was actuall SDA who died in that plane crash and the owner of that butcher stores was an SDA, she didnt believe me (at first that is)
it wasnt until I told her that the church in general perform abortions in their hospitals...
you know what she said?
Sodom and gomorrah... (and my mother was always highly pro-adventism and apparently highly pro-life)
I think this will have opened her eyes a little bit...
what I thought about yesterday is all that bashing against the catholic church and stuff, but in this regard I would say the catholics are miles ahead of SDAs! Catholics might have killed many during the crusades and stuff. ok, that wasnt good...
but abortion IMHO is some sort of pagan god worship... otherwise known as Child sacrifice, it may not be intentional, but you know, I think the devil is proud of this! he must really like it...
and if there is no other church that is up to the task, wow... the SDAs are truly exclusive, one of a kind!
The SDA concept of 'the remnant church' is at play in this thing.....
...Because the majority of ALL the other churches are against abortion.
...To SDA's would indicate being against abortion is "apostate" OR "Babylon" - thus SDA's offer abortion.
....Because the fallen or wordly papal church condemn abortion.
The SDA church publically repudiated the Council of Nicaea in their publications throughout Ellen White's life....
....And one of the reasons was because all the fallen churches accepted it.
....Thus the creed was Babylon & apostate.
....The abortion issue is no different.
The SDA concept of 'the remnant church' is at play in this thing.....
...Because the majority of ALL the other churches are against abortion.
...To SDA's would indicate being against abortion is "apostate" OR "Babylon" - thus SDA's offer abortion.
....Because the fallen or wordly papal church condemn abortion.
The SDA church publically repudiated the Council of Nicaea in their publications throughout Ellen White's life....
....And one of the reasons was because all the fallen churches accepted it.
....Thus the creed was Babylon & apostate.
....The abortion issue is no different.
What are you talking about? You speak as if you've polled the Adventist church and discovered that the majority of us are in favor of abortion. This statement makes no sense. Being "babylon" has much more to do with than abortion.
It is much different. Thanks for trying though.
The question is
does being a member of a church mean that you are in favor of something that the organization is in favor of?
Not sure why you keep trying to make this correlation.could we agree that being a member of the nazi party didnt necessarily mean you were in favor of senseless killing...?
This is correct.
Not sure why you keep trying to make this correlation.
so you are in favor of abortion... thats what you said...
so you are in favor of abortion... thats what you said...
sorry, I reread your statement and for some reason I saw a "not" in the sentence, which is why I said that it was correct. Belonging to an organization does not mean that you are in favor of everything it does.
>does being a member of a church mean that you are in favor of something that the organization is in favor of?
And what does the SDA church favor that we shouldn't?
So if the pregnancy was killing the mother you'd kill the mother rather than abort?
The SDA _Church_ does NOT turn a blind eye to abortion--that is a lie. Contra other churches who play the Pharisee and judge and condemn others who have had an abortion the guidelines suggested by the GC takes an uplifting approach:
"The Church should offer gracious support to those who personally face the decision concerning an abortion. Attitudes of condemnation are inappropriate in those who have accepted the gospel. Christians are commissioned to become a loving, caring community of faith that assists those in crisis as alternatives are considered."
Would you prefer that they threw a brick?
Why is a lie uplifting?
>you are implying that the SDA performs abortions only when the life of the mother is at stake? right? is that the truth? is that it?
Did I say so?
>I somehow understood that they perform abortions in general,
Where'd it say that? Just because a committee issues guidelines? Where's the logic?
>I somehow understood that there are people in the church who are said to have made a fortune
Where's the proof? On what basis did you arrive at that "understanding"?