Are Mormons and JWs Christians?

[Tess]

As far as I'm concerned if they identify as Christian then that's what they are.

 

[AV1611VET]

As far as I know, there's only one.

Yes, and He is in our midst every Sunday -- not off somewhere performing Salat because someone told Him to.

 

[Hammster]

As far as I know, there's only one.

I'm aware that Paul used that phrase. But he didn't treat the Corinthians who had been misled as non-Christians.

There is only one. He's the uncreated Creator. Their Jesus is the spirit brother of Satan.

 

[AV1611VET]

As far as I'm concerned if they identify as Christian then that's what they are.

If someone tells me they are a Christian, I will treat them as one as a courtesy to them.

The same courtesy as I would want to be treated.

 

[Hammster]

As far as I'm concerned if they identify as Christian then that's what they are.

Jesus disagrees.

 

[bhsmte]

Maybe. But it probably depends on motive.

Well, motive is typically driven by your psyche.

 

[bhsmte]

What about those who don't focus on it, but "silently believe it"?

And wouldn't every Heinz 57 variety calling each other "catsup" just dilute the sacredness of the sect?

Those who need label others beyond their own mind, likely are feeding a psychological need to do so.

 

[AV1611VET]

Those who need label others beyond their own mind, likely are feeding a psychological need to do so.

I think they label themselves that.

And for the record, we Christians got our label from our antagonists, not our protagonists.

 

[Hammster]

Well, motive is typically driven by your psyche.

So it's not concern for others? A beggar showing other beggars where he found food?

 

[Hammster]

Those who need label others beyond their own mind, likely are feeding a psychological need to do so.

"Those who label others" is a label.

 

[Tess]

Jesus disagrees.

Nahhhh!

 

[Archaeopteryx]

So they want their cake and eat it too?

I'm with Hammster on this one.

They have a different Jesus.

You all do.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Jesus disagrees.

Then let him come forth and speak his mind.

 

[bhsmte]

Jesus disagrees.

No problem with it being your interpretation with what Jesus said.

To get nit picky about the whole thing though, a whole lot of highly educated NT historians, will tell you the portions of the gospels they will claim has historical reliability, is quite small. Which is why, faith is required to accept it as accurate.

 

[Hammster]

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[Hammster]

Nahhhh!

21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'
Matthew 7:21-23

 

[bhsmte]

"Those who label others" is a label.

Not really, it is an observed behavior and one quite easy to identify.

Saying someone is; a Christian or not a Christian, is putting a label on them.

 

[Hammster]

Not really, it is an observed behavior and one quite easy to identify.

Saying someone is; a Christian or not a Christian, is putting a label on them.

Same difference.

 

[Lachrymose]

You all do.

 

[bhsmte]

So it's not concern for others? A beggar showing other beggars where he found food?

You lost me.