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Why would I bother when you cannot even live honestly with the worldview you claim to have.
You clearly aren't listening at all. Do you have no fear of God at all?
People write letters to people they 'know' exist. They do not write letters to people they think may not exist. Even when a child writes a letter to "Santa", it's because the child thinks "Santa" exists. But if the child, in adult form, continued to write letters to "Santa", after they no longer think "Santa" existed, that would be odd.
If God does not answer the prayer while you are alive, (like 'please heal my cancer', 'please restore my amputated limb', etc..) then it's safe to say He did not answer your prayer. I don't think cancer or an amputated limb matters much postmortem.
Bingo! The end result, predictably, is that one's morality just happens to coincide with their depravity.If you yourself doubt the existence of such an absolute authority it means (by definition) that your own 'morals' are resting only upon your relativistic desires and feelings.
you know, it's pretty funny. I used to be the naive kind of fellow that irrationally thought that atheist were bad people. it's really embarrassing.
The only question that remains is do you pray to God in complete belief that he exists, or are you praying to test whether or not he exists?
Because belief is really the theme for Christianity (not morality).
Bingo! The end result, predictably, is that one's morality just happens to coincide with their depravity.
"And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it." John 1:5
If by 'depravity', you mean 'the innate corruption of human nature, due to original sin', this would also mean one must reject a fairly large scientific theory. Well, I've studied such a scientific theory and believe it is true, due to evidential accounts. Belief does not validate that the belief is correct; just that one believes it. So even if my belief is false, I still believe it. But the conclusion of this belief means I have no choice but to not believe in the concept of 'original sin'. And since belief is the primary tenet in Christianity, I guess I'm screwed, if actually true.
However, luckily, it would appear that whoever wrote the Bible did not appear to have a clear grasp on reality (at least from my estimation).
Is it my inherent depravity which makes me conclude this scientific theory correct, which makes me then also conclude, using intellectual honesty, that I can not longer accept the claim for 'original sin?'
Morality is evidence of belief.
It is not enough to believe in God, one must also believe God, and more importantly be led by his spirit.
If by 'depravity', you mean 'the innate corruption of human nature, due to original sin', this would also mean one must reject a fairly large scientific theory. Well, I've studied such a scientific theory and believe it is true, due to evidential accounts. Belief does not validate that the belief is correct; just that one believes it. So even if my belief is false, I still believe it. But the conclusion of this belief means I have no choice but to not believe in the concept of 'original sin'. And since belief is the primary tenet in Christianity, I guess I'm screwed, if actually true.
However, luckily, it would appear that whoever wrote the Bible did not appear to have a clear grasp on reality (at least from my estimation).
Is it my inherent depravity which makes me conclude this scientific theory correct, which makes me then also conclude, using intellectual honesty, that I can not longer accept the claim for 'original sin?'
I believed in God wholeheartedly for 30+ years. I was never aware of any 'spirit'? How might one 'know' they are lead by this 'spirit'?
What is the scientific theory regarding sin?
I think your second sentence speaks to the first.I believed in God wholeheartedly for 30+ years. I was never aware of any 'spirit'? How might one 'know' they are lead by this 'spirit'?
Evolutionary theory. I did not state it, because it really conflicts, and may move one away from the original topic of morals. However, it was one of the nails in the coffin, as to why my belief later wavered.
Definition of depravity
plural depravities
1: a corrupt act or practice
2: the quality or state of being corrupt, evil, or perverted : the quality or state of being depraved
- the depravities of war
Definition of DEPRAVITY
Nice strawman though.
I think your second sentence speaks to the first.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.” 1 John 2:19
Sure you were (at least, in your opinion). That's why you created your strawman instead of asking for clarification, and why you didn't address the post once clarification was given.You are so taking my response out of context. I'm not trying to create something easier to defeat.
The spirit is that "still small voice" that speaks to your conscience.
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