Are evil desires considered sin?

[He put me back together]

I think it comes down to acknowledging whether it's a sin you'll be committing. If forexample you want to hurt someone, but you had no intention of really hurting him/her....and in the end you didn't do it, then it's not really a sin. However if you want to hurt a person, and you know that it was wrong for you to hurt him/her, and you still continued with that...then....


It gets to a number of levels and degrees of conscience to decide that...

I think it's too confusing to think about it, and it's not worth finding out the borders to commit them.....

Better to keep away as much as possible is my way!

I don't know about that, brother--I mean, I know people who fornicate all the day long and have convinced themselves that it is fine. (Well, I suppose it's arguable as to whether or not they have convinced themselves, but I could just claim a hypothetical and be done with it) Is fornication a sin for them? Of course, I don't suppose that was necessarily what you were getting at--

It comes to this, I think: there is a difference between coming to the thought of harming another person, and actually wanting to do it. As a matter of fact, the chemicals in our body at times urge us to hurt others--it's a function of nature that we must deal with and control, as it attempts to control us. But urges in the body are not sin; giving in to evil is sin. Perhaps a revision of your statement would be "The urge to hurt someone else is not sin, but actually wanting harm to come to them usually is."

By usually, I mean that there are of course a minority of situations where desiring or even inflicting harm on another human being is not sin. For instance, the Israelites were not always in sin when they waged war, and neither are the soldiers in Iraq sinning by harming their enemies. (As for anyone who wishes to debate whether or not the President is in sin by ordering such violence, I think it would be more appropriate to start a new thread.) In addition, defending oneself and one's family from an invader in the home is not only permissible, but one's duty. The same often goes for that minority of police officers who actually have to use their firearm.

 

[He put me back together]

grrrrrrrrr I meant there is of course a minority of situations...

 

[Icystwolf]

I don't know about that, brother--I mean, I know people who fornicate all the day long and have convinced themselves that it is fine. (Well, I suppose it's arguable as to whether or not they have convinced themselves, but I could just claim a hypothetical and be done with it) Is fornication a sin for them? Of course, I don't suppose that was necessarily what you were getting at--

All day long....WOW! don't they have a job....LOL

Yeh..no, that wasn't what I was getting at....I was saying, you know the rules, and rather than looking for and testing boundaries, it's better to walk the safe path and not commit those things.

It's like, there were some Christians who really wanted to have sex before marriage, but their parents won't let them...so they asked whether Oral sex was ok or not. They claim it's not real sex......

Thats what I call testing the boundary....it's not good in my opinion.

It comes to this, I think: there is a difference between coming to the thought of harming another person, and actually wanting to do it. As a matter of fact, the chemicals in our body at times urge us to hurt others--it's a function of nature that we must deal with and control, as it attempts to control us. But urges in the body are not sin; giving in to evil is sin. Perhaps a revision of your statement would be "The urge to hurt someone else is not sin, but actually wanting harm to come to them usually is."

Well yeh...that is still confusing...and it gets to so many levels of thinking, that it's better to just say...
If you want to hurt someone, immediately or ASAP think about God and drop hurting that person....

Otherwise if we keep testing the boundaries, it'd be so confusing and so difficult to understand that we can't really follow it.

By usually, I mean that there are of course a minority of situations where desiring or even inflicting harm on another human being is not sin. For instance, the Israelites were not always in sin when they waged war, and neither are the soldiers in Iraq sinning by harming their enemies. (As for anyone who wishes to debate whether or not the President is in sin by ordering such violence, I think it would be more appropriate to start a new thread.) In addition, defending oneself and one's family from an invader in the home is not only permissible, but one's duty. The same often goes for that minority of police officers who actually have to use their firearm.

I think I've merely just finished arguing at those threads.....too tired to something like that again...unless theres something interesting involved in it.