Appreciating The Trinity

[1watchman]

New Christians need to see this and appreciate what God has done and is doing for His saints here yet in this world:


GOD IS LORD OVERALL

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THE MARVEL OF THE TRINITY
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To properly understand our relationship with God, it might be helpful to better understand the trinity of God in a brief distinction, and appreciate His manifestation to mankind:

GOD, the Father: Jehovah --Creator and Lord, provider of all good, our progenitor, and the mind of the Godhead.
GOD, the Son: Jesus, the Christ --Savior and Lord, Bridegroom, our Redeemer and hope, and beloved personage (man) of the Godhead.
GOD, the Spirit: Holy Ghost --secret worker and power, comforter, energy and silent teacher of the Godhead.

A child of God can thank the Father-Jehovah for His great creation, plan of salvation, hope, care, and precious promises in His beloved Son (Gen.1:26; John 17:5; John 3:16). The believer can give thanks to Him for His many blessings, teaching, and care by His Holy Spirit (John 16:12-14); and one can also praise the Lord Jesus --the Christ, for coming unto us as a sacrifice for our redemption, comforting us, His promised return for us, and intercession---"no man cometh unto the Father but by Me" (John 14:6; 1 John 5:11-13).

This seems a proper appreciation of our triune God, who will come to us who believe, and dwell with us (see John 14:23 - "we will come" - the Trinity).
- R. DeWitt, GD03 - from biblecounsel.net

ADDENDUM 5/11: It is a growing practice in Christendom, and quite common among the charismatic type Christians, to not take "all the counsel of God" as we are told; and they thus fail to discern the working of God and are often talking to the "power" --Spirit, and neglecting the Father; and that seems to be due to a religious preoccupation with having some special revelation and spiritual experiences to the neglect of Scripture. They fail to see the Lord Jesus as our intercessor, and ignore the fact that the church is the "Bride" of Christ. It also is contrary to the presence of the Spirit as the Power of God, the silent Teacher and worker among men. These unlearned ones also fail to discern the New Testament in Christ, and some continue trying to keep the Hebrew language and ways of Israel ---calling Jehovah: Yahweh, and the Lord Jesus: Yeshua. Most of us in the world do not speak Hebrew. They do not understand the difference between Israel and the Church. Much sound ministry is available if one desires to know these things. A faithful saint today needs to enter in to the "high calling of God in Christ Jesus" (Phil. 3:14). - RLD: GD03

One has remarked: "A person can dismantle the trinity by researching all the places in the Bible that the three are shown as distinct and separate. These folks are not incorrect ---just incomplete. To be complete, they also must also research all the places where the three are shown to be one and the same. At that point they have re-assembled the trinity, and are now completely correct." - A. M.: Internet Forum.

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[Bible2]

1watchman said in post 1:

To properly understand our relationship with God, it might be helpful to better understand the trinity of God in a brief distinction, and appreciate His manifestation to mankind:

GOD, the Father: Jehovah --Creator and Lord, provider of all good, our progenitor, and the mind of the Godhead.
GOD, the Son: Jesus, the Christ --Savior and Lord, Bridegroom, our Redeemer and hope, and beloved personage (man) of the Godhead.
GOD, the Spirit: Holy Ghost --secret worker and power, comforter, energy and silent teacher of the Godhead.

Amen.

Jesus Christ is God (John 1:1,14, John 10:30, John 20:28, Titus 2:13, Philippians 2:6, Matthew 1:23). And he's uncreated God, just as God the Father is uncreated God. For everything created was created by Jesus (John 1:3, Colossians 1:16-17). Because Jesus is uncreated, there was never a time when he was not. He has always existed. He is YHWH the Holy One, from everlasting (Habakkuk 1:12a, Acts 3:14, Micah 5:2c). He is YHWH the only Savior (Isaiah 43:11, Titus 2:13), YHWH the good shepherd (Psalms 23:1, John 10:11, Mark 10:18), YHWH who will set his feet on the Mount of Olives at his return (Zechariah 14:3-4, Acts 1:11-12), YHWH the first and last (Isaiah 44:6, Revelation 2:8), YHWH the great I AM (Exodus 3:14, John 8:58), the great God (Titus 2:13), the mighty God (Isaiah 9:6), one God with God the Father (John 10:30, John 20:28), equal in divinity with God the Father (Philippians 2:6).

Just as the Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19) is the 3 distinct, coexisting Persons (Mark 1:9-11) of God the Father (Galatians 1:3), God the Son (Hebrews 1:8), and God the Holy Spirit (cf. Mark 13:11 and Matthew 10:19-20; Acts 5:3-4), so the Trinity is YHWH the Father, YHWH the Son, and YHWH the Holy Spirit. For YHWH is the only God (Isaiah 45:5-6). He has always been and forever will be the only God (Isaiah 43:10b).

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There are so many different ways to illustrate the Trinity it shouldn't be difficult for every Christian to get at least some realization of it. While there's no sufficient analogy to completely explain God (Isaiah 40:18), how he can be one God and 3 Persons at the same time, the Bible does refer to God speaking things into existence (Genesis 1:24; Hebrews 11:3). What he spoke was his Word, who is that Person of the Trinity who has become flesh in Jesus Christ (John 1:1,14; 1 Timothy 3:16, Luke 24:39). But God the Word existed even before God the Father spoke anything into existence, for all things created were created by God the Word (John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:16-17). And the original Greek word in John 1:1,14 for "Word" is "Logos", which refers not only to spoken words, but also to any ordered thoughts. God has always had ordered thoughts, so God the Word has always existed.

So a human analogy for God would have God the Father as the mind, and God the Word as the ordered thoughts, speech, and writings (incarnate words) of that mind. God the Holy Spirit would be analogous to the breath (spirit) which is inextricable from human speech and also from ordered thought, in that a non-breathing person is dead and his brain has no thoughts. God the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4) is one God with God the Father and God the Word because the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father (Matthew 10:19-20 and Mark 13:11) and the Spirit of the Word (John 14:16-18, Romans 8:9). While an individual human isn't 3 persons, the truth about God can still be grasped by looking at man's design, for man was made in God's image (Genesis 1:26). Just as an individual man has his word (Revelation 12:11) and his spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23), so the one God has his Word (John 1:1) and his Spirit (Romans 8:9). But the one God is so infinitely greater than man (Isaiah 40:17) that the Word of God and the Spirit of God are distinct Persons within his being.

Besides the analogy of a single human's mind, thoughts/speech/writings, and breath, the Trinity can be compared to the single sun's sphere, light, and heat. The Father would be analogous to the sun's sphere, which is invisible to humans except for its visible light, which is analogous to the incarnate, visible Word (Colossians 1:15, John 14:9). And the sun is felt by humans via its invisible, infrared rays, which would be analogous to the Spirit. The Trinity can also be compared to water, which even though it's one substance, it can exist in 3 states of solid, liquid, and gas at the same time (such as in a water pitcher 2/3 full with water and ice cubes, and with water vapor filling the top third of the pitcher). The Trinity can also be compared to space, which even though it's one area, it consists of 3 dimensions at the same time. The Trinity can also be compared to 1 x 1 x 1 =1, or to 1a x 1b x 1c = 1abc.

1watchman said in post 1:

They do not understand the difference between Israel and the Church.

Note that all genetic Jews in the church remain members of whichever tribe of Israel they were born into (Romans 11:1, Acts 4:36). And all genetic Gentiles in the church have been grafted into Israel (Romans 11:17,24, Ephesians 2:12,19, Galatians 3:29) and so have been grafted into its various tribes (cf. Ezekiel 47:21-23). So the entire church is the 12 tribes of Israel (Revelation 21:9,12; 1 Peter 2:9-10). This is necessary, for all those in the church are saved only by the New Covenant (Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:25; 2 Corinthians 3:6, Hebrews 9:15), made only with Israel (Jeremiah 31:31-34, John 4:22b). John 10:16 refers to the "other sheep" of believers who are Gentiles being brought into "this fold" of Israel, which is the "one fold" of the church (1 Corinthians 12:13, Ephesians 4:4-6, Revelation 21:9,12). A genetic Gentile believer can pray and ask which tribe of Israel he's been grafted into and he will receive an answer from God if he asks in faith (cf. Matthew 21:22) without any wavering (cf. James 1:6-7).

Also, all those in the church, no matter whether they're genetic Jews (Acts 22:3) or genetic Gentiles (Romans 16:4b), have become spiritually-circumcised Jews if they've undergone the spiritual circumcision of water-immersion (burial) baptism into Jesus (Romans 2:29, Philippians 3:3, Colossians 2:11-13).

Also, the book of James was addressing "the twelve tribes" (James 1:1), which was the same as addressing people in the church (James 5:14), people with faith in Christ (James 2:1, James 1:3) (i.e. Christians), people who have been born again (James 1:18, cf. 1 Peter 1:23), who are waiting for Christ to return (James 5:7).

 

[seashale76]

The Father is my hope, the Son is my refuge, the Holy Spirit is my protector. All-Holy Trinity, glory to Thee!

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[1watchman]

As stated above, Yahweh is Hebrew for what Israel called God, and Jehovah is the same word shown for the Gentile world. If one chooses to speak Hebrew that is alright with me, but our language in this age is mostly English ---derivative from the Greek.

It is also important to see that the Israelite religion was done away/fulfilled in Jesus, the Christ; and until the Millennium time when they are restored as a nation by God, they must come to Jesus today the same as those of us who are Gentiles; otherwise they have no salvation or relationship with God. Saints today are grafted in to the same God and faith, not in to their religion. The NT speaks quite a bit (note Hebrews) about the Jews who confessed Jesus as the Christ, but were often trying to mix their OT religion in, so the Apostle speaks about that to correct them.