Apparent Contradiction

Par5 said:

Well, I obviously don't understand godly love.

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Dave-W said:

Here is Rabbi Dan Juster's definition of love (bolded):

Love is not mere human sentiment - whereby we give people what they desire as long as it does not harm others. This definition is so short sighted. It is actually a false love and it fosters easy divorce, homosexual marriage and a host of other social problems.


Love is passionate identification with the other person, perceiving their worth and seeking their good, guided by the law of God. Love is passionate because it really includes emotional caring. Good is defined as the destiny fulfillment of a person. This destiny is founded upon a loving relationship with God and others. The worth of people is defined by their being created in God's image, and by the fact that God sent his Son to die for them (John 3:16). However, the good of people has to be defined as guided by law. Nothing that goes against God's foundational moral law is ever good for people in the long run. Destiny fulfillment is always in unity with the law. This is why Biblical love is always lawful. I John is full of verses on this! This means that if we love people, we seek to establish an order of righteousness or justice for their good.
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https://www.tikkunministries.org/newsletters/dj-jun16.php

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Par5 said:

So I'm telling you I don't like what you said and the reason is that I consider you to be full of self-righteous religious arrogance.

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Ken Rank said:

The word for jealous, qannâ', is actually at it's root "zealous."

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McGlint said:

Surely then that would mean the KJV bible is in error as translators have clearly not interpreted the Hebrew word correctly?

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Ken Rank said:

I am not a KJV only guy, but that wouldn't mean they were wrong. Every word has more than one meaning and translators are humans who have good intentions but who see through their own bias (like we all do) when translating. In this case though, we can see that one who is jealous would have a zeal for whatever it is they long for and think belongs to them. So the connection of jealous and zealous is pretty clear.

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McGlint said:

If God’s word isn’t perfectly preserved as it is in the KJV English version, then not only does Gods word lie, there is no God. The Christian faith rests on Gods word being true. Every jot, every title, every comma, every full stop every thee every thou. Have any “scholars” found so much as a spelling mistake or grammatical error in the KJV? No but according to you they got all the words wrong.

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ViaCrucis said:

My faith isn't dependent upon an inerrant translation of the Bible. My faith is dependent upon Jesus Christ crucified and risen from the dead.

If your faith hinges upon the inerrancy of an 18th century revision of a 17th century translation of the Bible, then you're doing Christianity wrong.

-CryptoLutheran

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McGlint said:

What version do you use, does it use the word Jealous or Zealous? Exodus 34 :14 The lord whose name is Jealous is a jealous God.

If God’s name is even referred to as Jealous then clearly it doesn’t mean zealous. You do violence to the truth of Gods word when you lie about Hebrew meanings.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H7067&t=KJV

Quick English lesson, Jealous doesn’t mean Zealous.

Quick Hebrew Lesson quanna means Jealous not Zealous.

Where does your zeal for lies come from?

If God’s word isn’t perfectly preserved as it is in the KJV English version, then not only does Gods word lie, there is no God. The Christian faith rests on Gods word being true. Every jot, every title, every comma, every full stop every thee every thou. Have any “scholars” found so much as a spelling mistake or grammatical error in the KJV? No but according to you they got all the words wrong.

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