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I know I'm going to take a hammering for this post...so go ahead...
But why is it that countries tend to honor people that have gone into war???
irrespective of what they fought for, freedom, liberty, oil, money, etc...
WAR is never the answer!, making an "excuse" to kill another human being for whatever reason is not an excuse!!!!!
I've lived in many countries, I have friends who have fought against Australia in the past, I've lived in countries in which battled current Western countries,
Some of my friends would call the diggers who have died their enemies, and how Australians invaded their country etc, etc...
I'm just curious though..., from the Christian perspective...
Why are we remembering/honoring "The sins of our friends/relative/brothers"?
PS: I have relatives that have died in wars, although I remember them.
I will never honor them for going to WAR, whatever cause that is.
I know I'm going to take a hammering for this post...so go ahead...
But why is it that countries tend to honor people that have gone into war???
irrespective of what they fought for, freedom, liberty, oil, money, etc...
WAR is never the answer!, making an "excuse" to kill another human being for whatever reason is not an excuse!!!!!
I've lived in many countries, I have friends who have fought against Australia in the past, I've lived in countries in which battled current Western countries,
Some of my friends would call the diggers who have died their enemies, and how Australians invaded their country etc, etc...
I'm just curious though..., from the Christian perspective...
Why are we remembering/honoring "The sins of our friends/relative/brothers"?
PS: I have relatives that have died in wars, although I remember them.
I will never honor them for going to WAR, whatever cause that is.
Born to Watch....I agree with you totally !! If my relatives hadn't fought against aggression, then I would not have the freedom I have today....I am PROUD of their sacrifice. I don't believe it's a sin to defend yourself or your country.
Sorry thats not what I said, I said for secular society the law is different to that of the Christian society.
Can Christians fight and kill to defend themselves, I think the bible is clear on that teaching.
Our promise is Jesus not ourselves.
Sorry to disagree.
A interesting statement was made today by a friend. they said imagine if the japanese wanted to come here once or twice a year every year to mourn those who died in war. Would we show them the same respect and courtesy that the turkish people show us. Upon thinking about it I came to the same conclusion they did. The answer is no we would make a huge fuss and start media campaigns and the like to stop it from happening.
A interesting statement was made today by a friend. they said imagine if the japanese wanted to come here once or twice a year every year to mourn those who died in war. Would we show them the same respect and courtesy that the turkish people show us. Upon thinking about it I came to the same conclusion they did. The answer is no we would make a huge fuss and start media campaigns and the like to stop it from happening.
the thread asks what people think of ANZAC day. Those views are all that are being expressed. Just because you don't agree does not mean they are not entitled to post their views here. I remember a high school teacher saying it was a day where we celebrate a massive defeat. When it comes to the parades I have to agree with him. I disagree when it comes to memorial services.If you've got contrary views to soldiering, ANZAC day and whatever else, you are well entitled to it, but keep it out of this thread, you can rant and rave elsewhere.
So according to your logic in this post we should not have any celebrations in turkey. So what is the real reason we expect this special treatment?The mourning is done in Turkey, because we had 5000+ troops that died there, why would the Japanese want to come here and mourn when they didn't have any casualties here? If there were any casualties, it would be very few.
Ah the good ol war crimes argument. How did I know someone would bring that up! If people want to honour those who have fallen at the battlefields then the argument is still valid in that where the deaths occoured was in Australia. In any case the point being that would we as a country allow them to hold services here if there had been deaths? the answer is no because of crimes they committed. of course we won the war so we write the history! I have spoken to world war 2 vets and I think you would be surprised at some of the stories they tell about regrets regarding actions.Furthermore, the battles we had with the Turkish infantry was somewhat different with Japan. Japan had a long list of horrendous war-crimes that went far beyond any conventional infantry battles. If there were any uproar of Japanese commemorations here, it would largely be because it would be completely pointless, the majority of their deaths were elsewhere.
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