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What rights has anybody voted to oppress? We have equal rights.
In addition to the fact that you have the right to marry someone you love and I don't...
...people routinely vote against ...hate crime laws for gay people.
What rights has anybody voted to oppress? We have equal rights.
False. A man may marry a woman, but a woman may not. This is sexist.
So you are saying that voting to oppress the rights of a minority is something people shouldn't feel guilty about?
You're projecting a motive upon people that they may not necessarily have. If someone votes against something that they feel is wrong, for whatever reason, you can't accept their reason. No, you have to tell yourself and anyone who will listen that they are voting the way they are to oppress a minority. It's a projection from you, not a truthful statement about them. So why do you feel justified going around projecting lies upon people?
No, it's true, I never said it wasnt sexist, I said we had equal rights, and we do.
We both can marry a member of the opposite sex = EQUAL.
Neither can marry a member of the same sex = EQUAL.
You want a right that I dont have. I cant marry a member of the same sex either. We have equal rights.
You're projecting a motive upon people that they may not necessarily have. If someone votes against something that they feel is wrong, for whatever reason, you can't accept their reason. No, you have to tell yourself and anyone who will listen that they are voting the way they are to oppress a minority. It's a projection from you, not a truthful statement about them. So why do you feel justified going around projecting lies upon people?
Whether or not their motive is to oppress a minority, they are still doing it and they know they are.
You haven't answered the question that's been posed to you. Plus, it's not a fact that they're oppressing a minority by their actions. That's STILL an unfounded accusation from you about them.
You and I have equal rights. You can marry any woman that agrees to marry you, just like me. I cant marry a man, and neither can you. See, we have equal rights. You dont want equal rights, you already have those. You want additional rights that you dont already have, and neither does any one else.
No, I'm not. You are projecting a false motive upon people. There can be no denying that. You are saying that the reason these people who vote against an issue is that they wish to oppress people. You have no way of proving that statement, because you don't know these people personally and have no way to determine what their motives are. It's just like when the conservatives say stuff like "the reason gays want to marry is so they can undermine the moral fabric of society." They have no way of proving that statement either and are projecting falsely. If I accused a conservative of making a false projection in response to such a statement, you'd fully agree with me. But when the shoe is on the other foot, you can't be honest enough to admit you're doing the same thing. Why is that?
Now let's take a look at the other side of the same coin. If you vote for or against an issue, how are you not forcing your morality and what you think is good upon others? Why is it only the conservatives that get hit with that accusation? Anybody who votes for or against anything, is forcing their view of what they think is right or wrong upon others. Own up to it. But you won't. You'll just reserve your condemnation for those who have the audacity to disagree with you, while telling yourself that you're looking out for the good of others. This is nothing more than a way for you to rationalize away the very behavior you accuse conservatives of engaging in.
DMagoh is right. As it stands right now we have equal rights. I can not marry a person of the same sex and neither can you, unless you happen to live in California or Hawaii or some other state that has given this right to it's citizens. I can marry a person of the opposite sex and so can you. The states have always had laws about who can be married in their state and who can not. It has nothing to do with denying rights to people, solely because they're a minority. States deny rights to people all the time. In my state I'm denied the right to carry a gun into any establishment that serves alcohol, even though the same state has given me the right to carry a concealed weapon. Should I now behave like the homosexuals and cry foul, because I happen to be part of a minority that would like to have a drink while carrying my gun? Sometimes you just have to deal with the laws that are in effect.
If you haven't learned that life isn't fair by now, you probably never will. So you can't "marry" the person you love. News flash, marriage is between a man and a woman, so you can't get married anyway. You could enter into a civil union if you wish and hey knock yourself out. But the main reason I see people wanting to get married in the first place has nothing to do with love, but has to do with getting protections from the state. Also, when you do get the right to marry, and you most likely will, when will you guys be pushing for equal divorce laws as well?
I'm still looking for ONE verse in the Bible that mentions homosexual sex in a positive way.
Every time I see homosexuality mentioned, homosexuals are either being destroyed by God or condemned.
great, that means your argument is baseless.Great! Could you let us know when you find it?
Both he and I see same-sex practice condemned.I think you might find that sodomy or rape is condemned in the Bible - NOT homosexuality
You state above that God DESTROYS homosexuals in the Bible. What? That is simply not true! Where in the scriptures did God destroy homosexuals? And please don't say
Sodom. Its true. Of course it is you aren’t trying to claim people who have same-sex sex aren’t homosexual s are you? The verses have been given to you many times before, they are true, yoy just don’t believe them.Sodom and Gomorrha, otherwise you'll be shot down in flames.
your argument is baseless, this forum is to discuss issues, if you have no evidence your continual criticism of the Biblical evidence we put forward must stop.This is where you guys are missing the boat and putting your own biased slant on the scriptures. I don't have an agenda to push ...I'm not 'gay'. It's dishonest reporting and it has to stop.
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