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Help urself to the fruit and hope u enjoy the wallpapers.. I forgot to add them prior. razz.. i specially liked the colord build/.. Scene thats coooollll
 
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Your words were refreshing and warm...that is a blessing.

We are currently studying biblical Love, our study at the moment is who we are to love, and the first of those loves is a husband toward the wife. Fascinating study!!! Previously we studied the different pictures of Love God has given us, like Father love, Savior love, we just started teaching Comforter love in SS. Our book on I Cor. 13 love is almost complete, which makes two book sets ready to go. (nine planed)

In addition to that we are working on our masters degree in pastoral counseling, (this is the last class) and will start the doctorate program right after that. Between all that, the counseling we do, trying to get our house together and property set up for garden and animals (miracle house but needs totally stripped and redone, had to re plumb, needed heat, etc. just to move in so our daughter could start school) I stay pretty busy. Today's focus, putting together what I have learned about submission as wife's are instructed to do. Speaking of which, lunch is over, back to work. lol

Have an incredible day...may you see a glimpse of God today, as you seek Him in every moment, every circumstance, every detail of your life.
 
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U r welcome dear... Hope u r always inspired . Have fun at work.. Razz
 
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Help urself to the fruit and hope u enjoy the wallpapers.. I forgot to add them prior. razz.. i specially liked the colord build/.. Scene thats coooollll

When u see my user name.. In health,.. Sections.. Recovery section.. I feel'm
letting positive vibes go far .. Feel free to jump in .. Razz. Also look under new christian/s for happy eastee thread and happy st. Pat.s day thread..
Wear u'll see my username usually??
Hope u r motivated everyday..
 
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In our household, when the kids were born, they got home made baby blankets, kind of a big deal. Then I made them a blanket when they were old enough to pick out a design, and then my mother made them another a few years ago for Christmas. So they have kind of a legacy of homemade blankets, in fact, they each have one that their great grandmother either made or helped make.

WEll, this week, our sons baby blanket came home from being repaired. It's kind of throwing me for a loop. I thought I would be past this by now. So far, no tears, that is good I guess, but I miss him and wish I could just quit so that I could go home and see both my King and my son. Kind of a low day, full of self doubts and tired of the pains of this world. Can't even bear the thought of getting the blanket out and looking at it...man do I miss him, so want to pick up the phone and call, just to hear his voice.
 
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Sorry.. I just re-read ur post. how did ur son die? .. sorry i hurt ur feeling
Or hurt u.. my sincere condolence on ur painful loss . I appologize for mis-reading it. u poor dear.... hey btw..
 
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Why r u confused?? Razz
our son died over 2 years ago, what and how can I ask him and what should I be asking him? Your response makes absolutely no sense...and to top that off, what does school have to do with anything in the post?
 
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Just now, got the phone call, that a friend from church, he wasn't much younger than our son who died not 3 years ago, just rolled a tractor on himself and is now dead. I cannot even tell you how that felt....I relived that moment a couple years ago...trying to keep my head on straight...trying to process...can't even find words right now....if anyone reads this, thank you for the prayers for the family of this young man...more when I can form words.
 
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May u have strength to help the mom who lost her son by possibly by going to see her and helping her? u can also heal urself ..?? May u have closer for ur son.. he wants u to demo him Razz
Always know that. Possibly ask ur local Senator to make warning on tractors/.. to make a emergency stop system on tractor/.. to help other future drivers/etc? May that mom have courage strength and guidence for their the funeral/..
Consider support group in ur hospital
Partner with other moms whose had the same loss or close to it..
Maybe an outside group meeting possibly add compliments refreshments??
 
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Okay, so slowly, I am finding words, and I'm going to speak, because I can....

Obviously we have been doing a lot of talking around here, especially to the kids. This was a friend of theirs, a friend only slightly younger than their brother when he died. They are close friends to the young man's best friend, memories are sure to come flooding back. In fact, I remember getting the word. It first came through text, "did you hear what happened to X?" Something in my heart knew, my heart relived those moments when I knew 2 1/2 years ago. My heart sank, my stomach ached, my mind swirled. In fact, a form of panic settled, in which I cried out, even shouted to God..."No! NO!" Then the reply, a tractor rolled on him and he is gone. Like that day our son died, my mind wouldn't allow my head to accept what my heart had known. I demanded he tell me it was a joke, that X was fine. Then those haunting words, "He is with (our sons name)"...I wanted to vomit...no parent is suppose to have to go through this. The emotions of that day, forced themselves into my being again, and I couldn't stop sobbing. Not just for our own grief, but for theirs as well.

Last night, the phone was busy, people checking in on us, talking about it themselves, trying to make sense out of it all. We joined the youth for prayer at the church, as they grieved the second loss of their group. That is when I began to open my eyes and look around me, to see a beautiful, wonderful piece of God that is more amazing than I have words to express.

In order to survive our sons death, one thing we had to learn, was to take our eyes off ourselves, off our pain, and look at things from another persons perspective. Some call this humility, for us, it looked something like this. My heart is broken into a million pieces and will never be able to be put back together without some pain remaining, by my son has been given a gift of such honor that we can't help but be happy for him. He will no longer ever have to suffer, no pain, no sickness, no poverty, no oppression, no more failures, and even more, he is in the presence of the King of Kings, daily going to the Kings table to feast, as family, not slave. What parent could ever ask more for her son? In this, we found strength, in this, our own pain is mingled with a thankful and excited wonder at our sons new fortune.

As we allowed the lesson of that "humility" to filter into this situation, as we allowed the lesson to take our eyes off our own pain and put them onto the pain of others, our own pain did not lessen, but it did, make room so that we could lift some of their burden for them, as so many did for us. In learning to see with different eyes, our own pain does not consume us, it doesn't envelop us in a grief too large to handle, but rather, it takes its proper place in our lives. The place of purpose, of strength, of grace and understanding, and in that place, it offers a healing, a sharing that few will ever have to endure. In that proper place, we learn, that our pain is nothing compared to theirs right now, this day, and someday, we will all be reunited with our boys, who are right now, sitting at the feet of our Lord, enjoying a life beyond our wildest imaginations.

The pain is very real, the struggle to get through the day is no less, but today, our eyes will not remain on self, today, we will look ahead, just as Christ did, and see what is to come, and in that find strength and resolve to honor the will of God even in this.

May you find strength for your day, grace to endure, and the power and beauty of true humility.
 
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Awww razz, i know this was tough to do . "Father we know moms angels r now by u. Although they will be missed they r indeed angels and u will look after them as well . "

May all u moms here have strength courage will power to heal the extreme pain... the death of a moms angel is never ending its will always be there.

"God please help heal these moms as they do their best everyday to represent their angels in everyday life.."

May u all have peace... Razz and .....
 
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While I'm happy that you are proud of your son, this is razz's post on how she is struggling with the death of another young man. Let's be sensitive.

Razz, I buried my 12 year old daughter almost 10 years ago. I understand how the feelings well up at the most unexpected times. My heart goes out to you, and the parents of the other boy. *hugs*
 
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I just adjusted it.. Turtle may u have strength peace courage and lots of crying time bonding with family and friends r a must for they suffer too and ur angels friends as well plez include them... "God Turtles beautiful 12 yr old daughter is an angel by ur side.. and she is in a really good place. plez help razz with her deep pain she may for a lifetime.. for she loved her daughter with all her heart and her daughter meant a great deal to her.. her family is going though such painful loss.. "

May u have healing strength courage hope etc each and everyday...
 
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Can u possibly help her.. Im sure she could use ur support.. and so could u..
 
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As the waves of grief begin their assault on our community of friends here, especially in our own household, I am reminded of the early days of our sons death. My stomach is still tied up in knots, my heart broken, as if ripped from my being and stomped to the ground. I remember the hollowed out feeling my husband speaks often of, and the surreal ness to the whole thing. With our son, we had expectations, we expected if he died it would be on the roads, we expected our eldest to come home in a body bag from the war zone, but a swimming accident? That was never in our expectations, we didn't have time to prepare, to think, to grasp what was happening as people spoke to us, the words just jumbled together. Nothing made sense, it couldn't be true!

I remember well, the way the sun, moon, and stars mocked our pain, as if nothing had happened, the sun set and arose again. The world had changed forever, nothing would ever again be as it was, but the sun didn't know this, it didn't receive the message, that things were different now. As if nothing ever happened the sun set and rose to lead on with a new day. We didn't want to face a new day, didn't want to hear the birds sing, they didn't know, didn't understand. But maybe, just maybe they did understand. Maybe, just maybe they weren't mocking our pain, but rather death. Maybe the new day, was suppose to remind us that there is hope, there is grace, peace, joy, life after we close our eyes to this earth. Maybe the sun setting and rising again, was to be a reminder that not even death can hold us if we put our trust in the living God.

I can almost see our son, welcoming this young boy, eager to show him all the wonders of their new home. Since we had kids, this will be the fourth young man we have helped bury, not to mention the teens I said goodbye to as a teen. I'm tired of burying kids! But oh just imagine the party they are having, the robes of royalty they adorn. Imagine the reunion when we ourselves go home! Forever they remain in our hearts, forever the tears flow because we can't touch them, or hear their voices and forever we will remember, that the sun will set, the sun will rise, just as if nothing happened, not to mock our pain, but to remind us that there is a future, a reunion day.
 
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Awwww we r listening...
 
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So yesterday, I had two people ask me about how to help them with their grief. I thought I'd tell you all my response and encourage anyone with experience to chime in.

First, don't try to fix it. It can't be fixed, so stop trying to fix it. So many people acted like our tears were a call to fix the problem, but in that situation, you earn the right to those tears, and no one has the right to take them away.

second, don't act like someone or something you aren't. If we didn't talk before, don't start now. If you thought I was a bloomin )*)$%R) before, I still must be, cause it doesn't change who I am, just what I know and experience and feel.

And thirdly, don't force the issue. Whether it is someone trying to insert a discussion of our loss or someone trying to avoid talking about it. He was, is and will remain part of our lives, but he holds no bigger place, or smaller place in our lives, so don't try to make it so. If he would naturally come up in conversation, bring him up. If he wouldn't, then leave him there. Don't ask me every two seconds if I'm okay, that is out of character.

Well those are my thoughts...
 
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