faroukfarouk
Fading curmudgeon
And of course Paul says that all who live Godly in Christ Jesus in one form or another will suffer persecution.
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And of course Paul says that all who live Godly in Christ Jesus in one form or another will suffer persecution.I remember when I was young reading John 15:18-27 it so pierced me that I asked God to so consume and fill me that those that hate Him would hate me for the God they see in me. Little did I know how many people would over the years have a "spiritual" (by their own admission) with me and when they reconciled with God the problem mysteriously went away.
had other people look at my life and many times over say I was being persecuted...I wouldn't call it that in the face of brothers and sisters in some of these other countries but I get why they say it.And of course Paul says that all who live Godly in Christ Jesus in one form or another will suffer persecution.
I was really referring to the spiritual principle about living in a hostile world, rather than comparing the lot of believers in one country as against another, I suppose.had other people look at my life and many times over say I was being persecuted...I wouldn't call it that in the face of brothers and sisters in some of these other countries but I get why they say it.
I've been compared to Job a lot too, not sure how comfortable I am with that one either but yep, I get what you are saying.I was really referring to the spiritual principle about living in a hostile world, rather than comparing the lot of believers in one country as against another, I suppose.
Job is highly commended for his patience!I've been compared to Job a lot too, not sure how comfortable I am with that one either but yep, I get what you are saying.
lol ask anyone on these boards that wants to silence me and they will tell you that after days and days and pages and pages of patient corrections and clarifications and kindness I am impatient and rude...point being, so many people want to make things like patience and love and kindness a subjective thing rather than understanding simply what these things mean.Job is highly commended for his patience!
I see what you mean; I guess I was referring also to the fact that if one is compared to Job, then Job is anyway commended for his patience (James 5.11).lol ask anyone on these boards that wants to silence me and they will tell you that after days and days and pages and pages of patient corrections and clarifications and kindness I am impatient and rude...point being, so many people want to make things like patience and love and kindness a subjective thing rather than understanding simply what these things mean.
Isaiah 48.10: 'Chosen thee through the furnace of affliction'.well whether anyone gets upset about this post or not, I'm posting...Mon. will be 7 years since our son died and it was that event that ultimately drove our children to various acts of defiance essentially destroying our family. I can't help it, I am crying again...just watched a "Heinz" commercial we made with the kids...oh how I miss my children.
Well, it will be a weepy weekend but that just shows the depth of love we have for such a precious gift from God. There it is said and anyone who doesn't like that I said it, please just don't respond at all. There is nothing at all wrong with saying I miss my beautiful son.
Job is indeed a very searching book.I'm gonna start this post by saying that anyone who has a problem with me posting this needs to keep it to themselves. There is absolutely nothing wrong with me saying this and in fact it is very "healing".
So yesterday morning at church after a really rough weekend, a little boy was sitting in front of us and acting just exactly like our son would have done at that age. I couldn't keep from crying...but it was a good cry of sorts. After church I talked to his mom and told her and she smiled because the stories I told of our son so reminded her of what her son would do. He was such a cutie and gave me an awesome high five before he left.
bitter sweet moment in a rough weekend. And if me saying so bothers you, go somewhere else. The pain in our hearts never goes away but that doesn't mean that our souls are not content and solid in Christ. Like Job, we can praise the Lord in the midst of grief.
oh we knew all that from the start...just because others accuse otherwise doesn't make it so but the question is why would they accuse such a thing especially in the midst of our grief.Wow. A lot of condemnation here. As someone who has studied the Word of God for many years, including seminary, Let me say this without hesitation.
GOD DID NOT TAKE YOUR SON AS A PUNISHMENT.
This is not the God I know from scripture. I can't give you an exact "why." But I do know that as much as we love our children, God loves them more. God has specific things He wants us to do while we're here. But He loves us so much that as soon as we are finished, He gathers us into His arms. Perhaps your son had completed his mission, and God chose to reward him by bringing him home quickly.
But never, ever think that God cannot or will not protect His children. No demon killed your son. Look at Job. Satan couldn't touch Job until God gave him permission. Even then, God limited what Satan could do.
Now, there is NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus. NO CONDEMNATION. I am sure you will understand all when you get home, and see your son waiting for you at the gate of Heaven. Until then, keep working on whatever God gives you to do. You'll see your son again.
Because people by nature are looking for someone to blame, someone to be mad at. Since it's frowned upon by everyone (except God, strangely enough) to be mad at God, sometimes we make other people the subject of our anger.oh we knew all that from the start...just because others accuse otherwise doesn't make it so but the question is why would they accuse such a thing especially in the midst of our grief.
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