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I don't know I haven't really thought of it vary much but I would probably have to agree with you second theory, and it could have been Dale the Whale who had her killed because she was going to publish something about him and he couldn't buy her off. But I personally don't think it would make for a good story, I think they will (if they ever do) make it really dramatic or something. but who knows.

But if Dale the Whale was lying I would have to go with you first theory. And I am so mad I never got to see the episode were monk goes to New York or Manhattan or were ever.(I did see the one were Dale the Whale tells him that stuff tho.)

Can't wait until july 9th (I think)
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Wow, you even have a Monk avatar. I'll have to get one of those.

Who do you think killed his wife? In the episode Mr. Monk Goes to the Ballgame, the killer murders the mistress of a major league baseball player to keep him from breaking a record which would make his baseball worthless. I think this is why someone killed Trudy, to keep Monk distracted and from cracking a case wide open. There is some very slight back-up to this in Mr. Monk and the Paperboy, where Monk was convinced that the paperboy was killed to keep Monk from receiving his newspaper and finding evidence about a crime.

My second theory is that someone Trudy wrote an article about did it. This is supported by Dale the Whale claiming that the bomb was indeed for her.

I also have a very long shot theory that Stottlemeyer had something to do with it, because of his intense jealousy of Monk. This is very noticable in the first season. But that is just a back of the mind theory which probably isn't correct.

I haven't seen most of the first half of the third seaon, but in one week Monk Season 3 will be out on DVD. :clap:
 
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We just started collecting the series on DVD. I didn't care for a lot of the first season episodes, but I really liked the second ones. I also didn't think I'd like Sharona's replacement, but I do!
I don't think Stottlemeyer was involved in Trudy's death. I don't think he would be featured so prominently on the show in the way he's featured if it were going to turn out that he was bad. It would just be weird.
 
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Well, the bomb was apparently 10# of plastique with a magnesium igniter (Mr. Monk Goes to Manhatan) detonated when she turned on her cell phone, and was built by a man named Warrick Tennyson (Mr. Monk Goes to Manhattan, Mr. Monk Goes To Jail), who was paid $2000, to kill Trudy, by a man with 6 fingers on his right hand, whom Warrick met one time only, while in the parking garage where the bomb eventually killed Trudy (Mr. Monk Goes to Manhattan).*
Trudy was the intended target, not Adrian (as Adrian had previously feared) (Mr. Monk Goes To Jail). Trudy was parked in the parking garage while buying cough syrup for Ambrose (who never leaves the house)(Mr. Monk and the Three Pies). *

On Trudy's last day, among her other chores, she visited a Taxidermist named Street to see about having a pet stuffed (Mr. Monk and the Billionaire Mugger?).

Trudy and DTW had had legal battles, lasting about 12 months, within 3 years prior to her death (Mr. Monk Meets Dale the Whale). DTW knew that the bomb was made specifically for Trudy (and not Adrian), and knew that it had been built by Warrick Tennyson (Mr. Monk Goes to Jail).

The obvious place to start, if one were investigating, would be to find out HOW Dale knew what he knew.

* this raises the possibility that the 6-fingered man somehow knew that Trudy would be parked in that parking garage at that time, and was able to either meet Tennyson there, or summon him in the extremely short period of time required to obtain cough syrup in a drugstore. This implies that the Monks had been under surveillance, and that their phone may have been tapped (which would enable the 6FM to deduce where she would be parked, and approximately when).

Tracing the taps on the Monks' phones would be another fruitful avenue of investigation.

Other than that, he doesn't know anything at all about the case.

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Recap of what we know about Trudy's murder:
It happened at 9 AM and no one else was hurt or killed. This is written in the headlines of the papers he is going over in The Candidate, but the smaller print in the articles below this don't say anything about her murder, they look like articles from the financial section, probably just put in to have something below the headlines to look real by Monk prop people.

The parking spot was number B5, or close to B5, the post in the background of the photos of the scene show this.

She was somewhere near a drug store picking up medicine for Ambrose, and the trigger was a cellphone. I assume that the guy set the bomb off by dialing the number. Considering this, I think it's likely that the person wanted to be certain that Trudy was the victim, probably be sure she was the only victim, he/she wanted complete control over when the bomb went off. He/She possibly even followed her to know exactly when was the best time to plant the bomb and to detonate it. We don't know if the parking garage where WT met Frank to deliver the bomb is the same garage where Trudy was murdered. The detonation method was given to us by Warrick Tennyson in Manhatten. Also we learned from him that a six fingered man named Frank hired him, paid him $2000, and met him in a parking garage. The amount of plastique used has been mentioned but is inconsistant.

There was another car bombing in the bay area at close to the same time that Monk couldn't link to Trudy's bombing, which to me seems very odd. Car bombing shouldn't be that common, should they? Two in a short period of time in the same area would usually indicate a link unless the second one was copy catted or done to make the police think it was related to the first bombing.

The level she was on was underground, I believe, because Sharona's car (jeep, whatever) in The Candidate was pointed downward when she was going to pick him up and Benjy asked what Monk was doing. You could assume that all or most parking garages in San Francisco are underground, but I don't think that's likely.

Sharona was an only child of Dwight and Marsha Ellison who live in Los Angelas. Dwight is a producer for television, in the third season he is producing a game show called Treasure Chest and sspects that the current champion is cheating and brings Adrian in to investigate. (Mr. Monk and The Game Show)

Adrian has a brother named Ambrose who is agoraphobic and doesn't leave the house they grew up in from 1972 until 2004, not even to go to Trudy's funeral, and he never called Adrian after that because as it it turns out, he blamed himself for her death all that time,; he had called her and asked her to get him some cough medicine on the day she died, so he believed that she wouldn't have been in the garage if not for him. They grew up in Tewkesbury, a town ten minutes from San Fracisco. They lost their mother in 1994, and their father went out for Chinese food in 1967 when Adrian was 8 and never came back. Ambrose has been saving all of the mail and newspapers since '72 because he thinks that their dad will want to read them when he comes back. When he asked Adrian why he hasn't been out there looking for their dad, Adrian says it';s because he is afraid he'll find him, which could indicate that he is very angry at him for leaving, or that he's afraid to find out why he left. Possibly he's afraid that he'll find out he is dead or something else he wouldn't want to know about his father. The Monk family never touched and in the only photo we see of them they seem to be standing about 2 feet apart from each other and Adrian said that's about as close as they ever got. We also see that Adrian was a cute kid, cherubic almost . Anyway, just to include info about the families of both Adrian and Trudy, something that some people might want to include for background info and possible clues. (Three Pies)

We know from Employee of the Month that Joe Christy, Adrian's partner, was with him when the call came through about Trudy's murder, that Adrian was laughing when the phone rang, but that no one has seen him laugh since. So we know that someone was with him and can confirm his whereabouts when it happened as well as his reaction to he news.

In Dale The Whale, Dale said that her last words, according to the coroner's inquest, were 'Bread and butter,' and he taunted Adrian about it, wondering what they meant and if they were a message to him. Adrian later told Sharona that this was something Trudy always said when they were holding hands but had to let go for a moment because some someone walked between them or a pole was in their path, so he thought it meant she was trying to tell him she had to let go for a little while but it wouldn't be forever. I don't think most people think of the phrase this way, to mean this. I have more often heard it to mean where the money they live on comes from, like her's and Adrian's jobs were their bread and butter, just as an example.

In Goes To Jail, Dale said that the bomb that killed Trudy was meant for her, not Adrian, even though Adrian always believed it was meant for him. Dale also told Adrian to go to New York to find Warrick Tennyson because WT had information about Trudy's death, that he was 'involved', and we find out in the next episode (Manhatten) that he built the bomb, and was hired by a man with six fingers named Frank.

From Millionaire Mugger, we find out that a scrap of paper from her appointment book for the day before she died read '530 Kelly Street, Mr. Simon', and Adrian normally assumed it meant an address, but every year (presumably about the same date) he realises that it might have meant 5:30 as a time and Kelly Street as a person and goes to the home of a woman named Kelly Street, but then blocks it out of him memory. In this episode, the door is answered by Ms. Street's sister, who I assumed hadn't met him before because she didn't seem to remember him, maybe she was visiting that year? She tells Adrian that Mr. Simon was her sister's dog, and Kelly hadn't been able to bury him so she had him stuffed, and maybe Trudy was doing a story about that because it is something people might consider strange. Then Kelly comes in and tells him that he's been back every year to ask about his wife's murder, which he doesn't remember. But her last entry into her apointment book that anyone is aware of is this one about Kelly Street. They don't give us any information aboiut what he might have found out previously, if anything, that he might be blocking out, just that he has been there before and this was what her last entry said. Also on the scrap of paper is a note in red ink 'P/U Drycleaning', in sort of lighter black ink 'Quincey's B-day' (assuminng this is how they know it was for the day before her murder, different inks indicate it was written at different times with different pens, and finally, in darker black ink, '530 Kelly Street' just below that in the same ink, and parallel to this is what looks like 're. ' with most of what follows missing, then below that, same ink, but on the line rather slanted across the page like the words above it, is 'Mr. Simon'. I wonder if this indicates that it was written at a different time from the stuff above it about Kelly Street and re. Though it could be rd. like the abbreviation for road. If she wrote the abbreviation for road, it wouldn't make sense for her to have written out the word Street unless it was the woman's last name. Could be nothing though.

Among the things that Adrian has at his home as evidence besides the scrap from the apointment book:
A watch
newspaper clippings from the days or weeks after the murder
photos of the crime scene
copies of the police reports

Headlines read:
Blast Kills Award Winning Columnist- Trudy Anne Monk was killed instantly when her car exploded this morning, nobody else was hurt, she was 35

Monk Murder Still Unsolved-Three months after Trudy Monk was killed in a car explosion, police are no closer to solving the crime says spokeman.

Explosion Rips Through Parkade Killing One- Unexplained blast at 9A.M. this morning killed journalist Trudy Anne Monk, police have no explanation. (this article has no date on it, neither did any of the others)

Detective's Wife Slain- Decorated detective in shock after hearing report.

No Links To Other Car Bombing Suspected - Detective Adrian Monk of the San Francisco Police has failed to produce evidence linking Monk car bombing with... (I can't read further than this, another paper is obscuring it)

I found these great synopsises at other forums. The first one says that Warrick Terryson met the six fingered man in the same parking garage that Trudy was murdered in, but this is only an assumption and we cannot be sure of this. This, along with information from Mr. Monk and the Three Pies, leads me to believe that Adrian's estranged father was behind her murder. She was looking for him, and learned a little too much.
 
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Unfortunately, I think the series has entered an early decline. Monk lacks most of his former animation, and is not as easily upset about things which should make him so. A good example of this is when he went back to his brother's house in "Mr. Monk Goes Home Again." He walks into a dusty office which hasn't been entered for 30 years and doesn't mind the dirt? Tonight when he wouldn't put the bowling shoes on was a little better, but the show hasn't been very good so far this season.

The villians are also much less faceless than we're used to. The jewlery store robbers, the lawyer, the candy poisoner, and the hearing-aide guy don't hold a candle to past criminals such as Dale the Whale, the marathon man, the schoolteacher, or the mayor's aid who murdered the 115 year old man. Criminals used to taunt Monk during his investigations, and I haven't seen that in a while.

Not only does Monk lack personality, but Stottlemeyer, also. He lacks the ambition he had in seasons one through three.

The cases aren't that great, either. They're harder to follow and lack the creativity of the past. Most of the murders haven't been requiring much brilliance.

Another problem I have is the role of Trudy. Since Sharona left we have heard little to nothing about Trudy or her murder (with the exception of Mr. Monk and the Cobra). This used to be a MAJOR part of the series, and now it almost instantly vanished. Instead, they have introduced a new mystery about what Natalie's husband did when his plane was shot down.

Bitty Schram's departure from the series left the producers and writers in a pickle, and I thought they were doing a decent job of recovering, although I really don't like the character of Natalie as much as I did Sharona. Almost every fan can say the same. Monk did have some great moments during the second half of the third season, my favorite being when he put the grenade in the refridgerator and then had to straighten it up. Unfortunately the fourth season just hasn't been very good and I don't know if it will get better.

I'm a huge fan, and that's why it kills me to see all of this. I REALLY loved the show, but the fourth season has me very worried, and I'm not sure that I'll even buy it when it comes out on DVD if it continues down its current path.
 
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We love Monk at my house :) My favorite episode is the one where Monk gets himself all stressed out over nature.... "Nature.. I've got nature on my hand" My daughter and I tend to lapse in Monk quotes while at weekend events at places where "nature" abounds :)
 
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"Nature.. I've got nature on my hand"

that's the funniest thing ever!!! ^_^ i remember that episode. i love the one when he has the chimp at his house and it destroys the place. i laughed so hard when he said he could never go back in there again!!!
 
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