Any one studied the March 23rd start...

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March 23rd 156 BCE, a very unusual Wednesday with equinox and full moon.. which some claim to be the start of the reckoning of true calendar.

In the Babylonian luni-solar calendar, the days are reckoned from evening to evening, for the new moon can only be observed immediately after sunset. This feature can be found in some Biblical books that have clear Eastern connections: in Est 4,16 a fast of “three days, nights and days” is ordered; according to Dan 8,14, the sanctuary will be restored after “two thousand and three hundred evenings and mornings”

The book of Jubilees was known by some Greek Fathers as Little Genesis. The original version is lost, but it mainly survives by an Ethiopian translation titled The Book of the Division of Times. The book rewrites the stories of Genesis, with some omissions and changes, and various details from Ex-Deut are added. The chronological frame is a kind of “solar” year of 364 days (Jub. 6:33-38), and the history of the world is computed in Jubilees of 50 years.

The days are reckoned from the morning, and the lunar rhythm of the months is ignored, but nothing is said of the adjustments necessary to match the actual natural year. It states that Israel had corrupted the Sabbaths and festivals, and had forgotten the secrets

Some calendrical documents from Cave 4 describe the service cycle of the priestly courses and give the dates of the major festivals. The introduction of one text refers to the Creation week (4Q 320:1-3): “[…] to its being seen from the east ]to[ sh]ine[ in ]the middle of the heaven at the foundation of Creation from evening until morning on the the day of the week”. Now this is where some have taken the stance that is different from current thinking. To them this means first that it is a day of full moon, and second that any astral calendar starts on the day of Creation – and not on the first.

Strange that Yeshua never brought this up nor aluded to it that I know of.

 

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An obscure passage of 1 Enoch can be understood this way: in74:12 we read “the sun and the stars bring in all the year exactly, so that they do not advance or delay their position by a single day”.

According to those who are studying this thought line, it was on Wednesday, March 23rd, 156 BCE, when the astronomical instant of the equinox happened to be very close to the instant of the full moon. They figure that the believers of that time and the astronomers were aware of this very rare phenomenon, which occurs in average less than twice per millenium.

A Persian writer, Al-Biruni (11th cent.). In a book on astronomy and calendars, he mentions a Jewish sect that was called Maghariyya (“Cave-dwellers”, in Arabic), because its documents were found in Qumran caves around the 7th cent. They demand that the year begin on a Wednesday. In this case, the problem disappears, since the first month always falls on the Sunday that follows the week of the Unleavened Bread. Al-Biruni received his information fromthe Cairo Karaïtes, see S. Poznanski, The Karaite Literary Opponents of Saadiah Gaon,in Ph. Birnbaum (ed.), Karaite Studies, 1971, 131-234

 

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I still have an open mind on this subject.

Rachel Elior makes a convincing argument the The Qumran community was composed of the Zadok Priesthood; and that they took scrolls from the temple when they were ousted, and replaced by imposters. Among their writings is the war scroll. It speaks of the war between the Sons of Light, and the Sons of Darkness.

War Scroll (1QM)

 

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I still have an open mind on this subject.

Rachel Elior makes a convincing argument the The Qumran community was composed of the Zadok Priesthood; and that they took scrolls from the temple when they were ousted, and replaced by imposters. Among their writings is the war scroll. It speaks of the war between the Sons of Light, and the Sons of Darkness.

War Scroll (1QM)

Yeah, and one of the most interesting things is which book is missing from their collection. It is Esther. But that is a side note, not for further study on this thread.

 

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Strange that Yeshua never brought this up nor aluded to it that I know of.

Did he not?

(CLV) Mt 22:29
Now, answering, Jesus said to them, "You are deceived, not being acquainted with the scriptures, nor yet with the power of God.

(CLV) Mt 22:30
For in the resurrection neither are they marrying nor taking in marriage, but are as messengers of God in heave

Yahshua mentioned scripture.

Where in the Torah or the Prophets does it say anything about the angels and their mating abilities?


Enoch 15: 5-7

And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die 5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget
6 children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly 7 spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

 

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Did he not?

(CLV) Mt 22:29
Now, answering, Jesus said to them, "You are deceived, not being acquainted with the scriptures, nor yet with the power of God.

(CLV) Mt 22:30
For in the resurrection neither are they marrying nor taking in marriage, but are as messengers of God in heave

Yahshua mentioned scripture.

Where in the Torah or the Prophets does it say anything about the angels and their mating abilities?


Enoch 15: 5-7

And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die 5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget
6 children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly 7 spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling.

Sorry how do you make the connection between wednesday start and Yeshua alluding to it?

 

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Sorry how do you make the connection between wednesday start and Yeshua alluding to it?

I apologize for the ambiguous response.

I didn't make a connection between the verse I posted and a Wednesday start. I made the connection between those verses and the Book of Enoch.

 

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I apologize for the ambiguous response.

I didn't make a connection between the verse I posted and a Wednesday start. I made the connection between those verses and the Book of Enoch.

I didn't know that when He said was alluding to the Book of Enoch.

 

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I didn't know that when He said was alluding to the Book of Enoch.

This "scripture" cannot be found in the TaNaK. I have been aware of this for years; but Zackary Baur recently put together a study on this subject:

The Book of Enoch