Any insight on analogy of Triune man and King Solomon’s temple?

[queenm04]

Triune man is body, soul and spirit, King Solomon's temple has the Outer court, the Holy place and the Holy of holies

 

[pimorton]

In my view of the tripartite makeup of man, Solomon's temple does not match up. I can see where you see this. The outer court equates with the body, the holy place equates with the the soul, and the Holy of Holies equates with the spirit, where God communes with man.
I believe the composition looks much more like a pair of intersecting circles.

Gen. 2:7 says "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Here we see the three elements of man as he was originally created. His body was formed from the dust of the ground, giving him substance he would need to exist in the physical world. Then God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, endowing him with a spirit with which to communicate with God.
Flesh can not communicate with spirit, and spirit can not communicate with flesh. But when the body was joined with the spirit, the soul was formed to serve as a translater between the two.
It is through the mind, will, and emotions that the body communicates with the spirit, which then makes its requests or praise to God. And when God speaks to us, He speaks to our spirit, which channels the message through the mind, will and emotions to make our bodies laugh, cry, or speak a prophetic message.
Because of sin, the spirit is dead. It is still attached to the body through the soul, but it can not communicate with God. When we accept Christ, the spirit is revived and we once again have communion with God. The problem many of us face is that the flesh is stronger than the spirit because we are not yet accustomed to communicating with God; hence we sin. But when, through constant exercise, the spirit becomes stronger, the mind, will, and emotions will listen more to the spirit/Spirit and less to the urges of the flesh and we sin less.

 

[queenm04]

Hi Pimorton. This is really solid stuff! I see what you mean. But I still feel that there must be some connection. Even though the connection may not be too logical.

Because every element in the outer court was made of brass typifying judgement. No ounce of gold (symbolizing Deity) is found in the outer court. There is the laver, just before you proceed to the Holy place. Where the priest has to wash their hands and your feet. No flesh will see God! So we die to self, and fellowship with the Lord In the Holy place. This fellowship, in my opinion takes place in the soulish / spiritual realm. A cousin of mine gave me this example one-day, a bottle that has a cold drink is referred to as cold drink. But when you dispense of the cold drink in the bottle, its not a cold drink any more. The same with soul, when one dies, the body becomes of no importance. But the soul still lives on. It’s the one that has continuity. This body that dies, is like the flesh that has to die, before close communion with God. Coming to think of it, I don’t think the outer court will be there in the heavenly temple, much as we won’t have our present bodies,

Am still researching,

 

[queenm04]

Because of sin, the spirit is dead. It is still attached to the body through the soul, but it can not communicate with God. When we accept Christ, the spirit is revived and we once again have communion with God. The problem many of us face is that the flesh is stronger than the spirit because we are not yet accustomed to communicating with God; hence we sin. But when, through constant exercise, the spirit becomes stronger, the mind, will, and emotions will listen more to the spirit/Spirit and less to the urges of the flesh and we sin less.

This is so interesting and deep also!​

 

[Oblio]

Trying to draw analogies between the Three Persons of the Holy Trinity to body, soul and spirit or physical structures (Temple, Eggs etc.) is fraught with error. While not heresy per se, it can lead to it. e.g. Trinitarian Modalism etc.

 

[queenm04]

Trying to draw analogies between the Three Persons of the Holy Trinity

Hi Oblio,Please refer to OP. No reference to three persons of the Holy trinity.​

 

[Oblio]

You are right queen, I saw the body, soul and sprit essay which is usually tied to the Holy Trinity and read that into it. My bad.

 

[StAnselm]

Of course, not everybody agrees with you, queenm04, on the tripartite division!

It's really tempting to draw parallels between all the groups of three found in Scripture - and I've dabbled in this a bit myself - but I think we have to resist the urge.

Still, just to know the sort of thing I mean, consider this:

Outer court, Holy place, Holy of Holies
Cleansing, Holiness, Glory (3 stages of the Christian life?)
Way, Truth, Life (John 14:6)
Common man washed, Priest in white garment, High Priest in rich robes
World, Land, Sanctuary
Nod, Eden, Garden of Eden
Ends of the Earth, Judea/Samaria, Jerusalem (Acts 1:8)

(What's happening with the last couple is that after the fall the scene widens, then it narrows through Abraham going to the promised land and Solomon building a temple in Jerusalem, then after Pentecost it widens again, as the gospel goes out into all the world.)

Yes, one can have a lot of fun with all this.

 

[queenm04]

Outer court, Holy place, Holy of Holies
Cleansing, Holiness, Glory (3 stages of the Christian life?)
Way, Truth, Life (John 14:6)
Common man washed, Priest in white garment, High Priest in rich robes
World, Land, Sanctuary
Nod, Eden, Garden of Eden
Ends of the Earth, Judea/Samaria, Jerusalem (Acts 1:8)
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Thsi is interesting​

 

[queenm04]

It's really tempting to draw parallels between all the groups of three found in Scripture - and I've dabbled in this a bit myself - but I think we have to resist the urge.Still, just to know the sort of thing I mean, consider this:
Outer court, Holy place, Holy of Holies
Cleansing, Holiness, Glory (3 stages of the Christian life?)
Way, Truth, Life (John 14:6)
Common man washed, Priest in white garment, High Priest in rich robes
World, Land, Sanctuary
Nod, Eden, Garden of Eden
Ends of the Earth, Judea/Samaria, Jerusalem (Acts 1:8)
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Its not just comparing any three though. I am comparing the two temples. The bible says we are the temple.​

1Co 3:16

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1Co 6:19

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

2Co 6:16

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

For interest’s sake,

Joh 2:19

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

 

[StAnselm]

It goes further - the temple is a picture of the universe, which is the cosmic temple. So:

Outer court, Holy place, Holy of Holies ~ Sea, Land, Heaven.

I'm not making this stuff up. The outer court contained a bronze sea, while the Holy place had the show-bread, and the Holy of Holies was, of course, where God manifested his presence.

 

[queenm04]

It goes further - the temple is a picture of the universe, which is the cosmic temple. So:

Outer court, Holy place, Holy of Holies ~ Sea, Land, Heaven.



I'm not making this stuff up. The outer court contained a bronze sea, while the Holy place had the show-bread, and the Holy of Holies was, of course, where God manifested his presence.

This is sooo....yummy!​

 

[queenm04]

It goes further - the temple is a picture of the universe, which is the cosmic temple. So:
Outer court, Holy place, Holy of Holies ~ Sea, Land, Heaven.
I'm not making this stuff up. The outer court contained a bronze sea, while the Holy place had the show-bread, and the Holy of Holies was, of course, where God manifested his presence.

I am tempted to say share more!​

 

[StAnselm]

I am tempted to say share more!

And I'm tempted to acquiese to your request, but I think I'll have to pass. After all, I don't want to give anyone indigestion!

 

[queenm04]

but I think I'll have to pass. After all, I don't want to give anyone indigestion!

Indigestion? Any way i do understand. Some things are too delicate! I will do some research on what you have put through, will feedback. I am also in the process of researching about the Garden of Eden as a temple. This friend of mine told me the temple started in the Garden of Eden. Thought that was also extraordinary.

 

[StAnselm]

Yeah, the words translated "tend and keep" in Genesis might better be rendered "worship and guard" - they're the same words used in Leviticus when the priests duties are laid out!

Anyway, that was one of the things I was getting at when I mentioned the "World, Land, Sanctuary" triad...

 

[queenm04]

WOW! I think i get it. it makes perfect sense!

 

[StAnselm]

Much of the stuff I've been saying on this thread I got from Jim Jordan. Back issues of his newsletter, Biblical Horizons are available on the web (http://www.biblicalhorizons.com/bh/) - look particularly at issues 57 and 58.

I think you'll find some interesting and challenging stuff there, queenm04.

 

[queenm04]

Hi there StAnselm
Thank you so much. Its an amazing site! (I hear in the beggining was the Holy of Holies.....) Wonderful stuff indeed! still going through the newsletters.

 

[queenm04]

Is it not amazing that while I was wondering about this (OP), a friend of mine dedicated a chapter in his book, Man the pattern of the Heavenly Tabernacle??? I find this so interesting because I have never discussed this with him before, what I was doing I was researching this for my self…