Any FSSP Catholics?

[CreedIsChrist]

Feel free to tell me to mind my own business, but I'd be interested in why your affiliation with them would be an issue to (pressumably) those in charge of your seminary?

Blessings,

Steve

I can give my opinion, if you want

If you are going the way of the Latin-Rite and have a much more conservative traditional view. Also if the Early Church Fathers and early patristics have a large part in your life.. Then definitely FSSP.

If you lean more towards the Novus Ordo Mass. Then SA's advice would be better..

Also watch priests and theogians. There are examples to follow and examples to avoid. Father Corapi, Peter Kreeft, Scott Hahn, and Father Barron are great examples. Examples to NOT follow, Hans Kung, Michael Pfleger, Joan Chittister, etc

 

[SemperFidelis]

I can give my opinion, if you want

If you are going the way of the Latin-Rite and have a much more conservative traditional view. Also if the Early Church Fathers and early patristics have a large part in your life.. Then definitely FSSP.

If you lean more towards the Novus Ordo Mass. Then SA's advice would be better..

Also watch priests and theogians. There are examples to follow and examples to avoid. Father Corapi, Peter Kreeft, Scott Hahn, and Father Barron are great examples. Examples to NOT follow, Hans Kung, Michael Pfleger, Joan Chittister, etc

I agree with all of that, I was just wondering how his affiliation with a Papaly approved order would cause issue for him.

I can certainly understand why some of the more liberally minded people found in diocesan seminaries would have a problem personally with it, but I was just interested as to what issues it caused within the official structure of the seminary, given that the FSSP is in full communion with Rome.

Blessings,

Steve

 

[CreedIsChrist]

I agree with all of that, I was just wondering how his affiliation with a Papaly approved order would cause issue for him.

I can certainly understand why some of the more liberally minded people found in diocesan seminaries would have a problem personally with it, but I was just interested as to what issues it caused within the official structure of the seminary, given that the FSSP is in full communion with Rome.

Blessings,

Steve

It shouldn't cause any issues. My own thought is that they could of thought they were sedevaticanists. Sadly allot of Catholics assume traditional Catholics are sedes right away and are against VII. Or that they are just traditional conservative "prudes" who are not "in the spirit of Vatican II"..I have heard comments like that before..

I admit though. As an FSSP, you will have a harder time finding a position as a priest since Latin-Rite Churches are much more sparse in number. Of course I could be wrong. But I know in my area many of the parishes looking for priests do the Norvus Ordo mass. Latin-Rite communities tend to be much more tightly knit and hence they aren't as fast to transfer priests. My wife and I attend a Latin-Rite mass that has a very strict dress code, women must veil, and never do communion in hand.

In a non latin-rite parish there will usually be much more modernistic issues to deal with(unless its the Cathedral). Communion in hand, priest must face the other way, dress-code is very lax, women rarely veil, liberal activities in the parish from pushy heterodox directors. Sometimes they will do them without even the priest knowing. In fact the factors are so involving that it could depend on how your career will take you..For instance, some liberal in the parish might do something that your against, you reprove or disbar his activities, and then all of a sudden your in the papers or the news. WHereas in a Latin-Rite Church you most likely won't deal with such things..

 

[ChristoEtEcclesiae]

The FSSP tend to be sympathizers of the SSPX, which are NOT schismatic. When the FSSP was created as a response to the SSPX, some SSPX priests left and joined the FSSP.

The SSPX and FSSP are not schismatics or sedevacantists.

 

[SemperFidelis]

The FSSP tend to be sympathizers of the SSPX, which are NOT schismatic. When the FSSP was created as a response to the SSPX, some SSPX priests left and joined the FSSP.

The SSPX and FSSP are not schismatics or sedevacantists.

Actually, from my experience, there tends to be quite a bit of friction between the FSSP and SSPX. Certainly they share some things in common, but, from my exeperience, they aren't exactly sympathetic towards each other.

Blessings,

Steve

 

[PilgrimToChrist]

Actually, from my experience, there tends to be quite a bit of friction between the FSSP and SSPX. Certainly they share some things in common, but, from my exeperience, they aren't exactly sympathetic towards each other.

Blessings,

Steve

I would agree with this statement. My priest (FSSP) has made negative comments about the SSPX and I know the SSPX sometimes says negative things about the FSSP. But since we essentially want the same thing, I think the faithful among them are less combative and more supportive of each other.

 

[SemperFidelis]

I would agree with this statement. My priest (FSSP) has made negative comments about the SSPX and I know the SSPX sometimes says negative things about the FSSP. But since we essentially want the same thing, I think the faithful among them are less combative and more supportive of each other.

Undoubtedly. I think it comes down to a disagreement over methods. And I know a few SSPX regulars who have no problem attending FSSP Mass', even though there priest would almost certainly disagree.

Having said that, the local SSPX priest here seems quite "moderate", and has very good relations with the Traditionalist priests in our community, so it is possible to work together obviously.

Blessings,

Steve

 

[SpiritualAntiseptic]

Feel free to tell me to mind my own business, but I'd be interested in why your affiliation with them would be an issue to (pressumably) those in charge of your seminary?

Blessings,

Steve

I don't mind answering. The basic issue is that many people (rightly) feel that people interested in the Latin Mass and the fraternity tend to be ones that are more interested in the sacramental and liturgical aspects of the priesthood over the sacrificial and service-orientated side of it.

 

[CreedIsChrist]

I don't mind answering. The basic issue is that many people (rightly) feel that people interested in the Latin Mass and the fraternity tend to be ones that are more interested in the sacramental and liturgical aspects of the priesthood over the sacrificial and service-orientated side of it.

priesthood itself is a form of sacrifice...

And I think that is only true because Latin-Rite Churches tend to be smaller. They are more involved with the parish itself than the whole community...

I took my RCIA at the Cathedral. And the Cathedral always has tons of activities and things to do. At my Latin-Rite Church there is much less to choose from, however the Mass is much more personal(if you understand Latin or have cross-English pamphlets)

 

[PilgrimToChrist]

priesthood itself is a form of sacrifice...

And I think that is only true because Latin-Rite Churches tend to be smaller. They are more involved with the parish itself than the whole community...
I took my RCIA at the Cathedral. And the Cathedral always has tons of activities and things to do. At my Latin-Rite Church there is much less to choose from,

That's probably true. We have more than 300 people but many of them are families. (big, young families). The homeschool association is very active. The choir/schola, of course, is very important.

But yes, we don't have a lot of other activities or clubs or whatever. We have a potluck twice a week, ongoing classes before Mass, a once-a-month young adult group, presence at the abortuary and other devotional things. It just seems a rather different focus than other parishes, especially large ones. I think once we have our own building things will get more active. It's really awkward to share a building with an NO parish but it's certainly better than not being here and until two years ago the Latin Mass Community didn't really have a parish to call home. We're getting there.

I don't know everybody and I've only been there just under a year (last Christmas was my first Mass there) but I'm getting a circle of friends and I feel at home there. I just wish it was closer.