any changes?

[tturt]

Thanks for your post mourning dove.

"And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: ..." Acts 2:17-21

We need to be prepared to help those when this happens. One thing is to be thick skinned to know that calling and be prepared to help those coming up.. There shouldn't be any lone rangers even though it's understandable. Everything God does has a purpose and if you see in the supernatural, then there's a reason Dont make assumptions. An example is some think darkness is always ungodly yet Deu 4
"Specially the day that thou stoodest before the Lord thy God in Horeb, when the Lord said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children. 11 And ye came near and stood under the mountain; and the mountain burned with fire unto the midst of heaven, with darkness, clouds, and thick darkness...." Asks what you're being shown. Encourage you to keep a journal and as He reveals the meaning, add to the original. Encourage you to get clearance from God before you start talking about what you've seen.

Even though Scripture says "Despise not prophesyings," Folks do even believers. That's on them. But I Thess 5 (reveals our spiritual state, heart indicator/meter) We continue on - "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." I Thess 5 (learn how to evaluate / ascertain then keep what is worthy by good warfare (I Tim 1:18 which includes faith & obedience. These can help prove all things:
-check it against Scripture (Acts 17:11),
-ask for confirmation (Matt 18:16; Acts 9;9-19 especially v 10-12; II Cor 13:1)
-fasting and praying, (Judges 20:26-27)
-spiritual discernment, (Gal 2:9)
-does it point to Yeshua, (Rev 19:10)
-receive G_dly counsel (Prov 11:14)

Study God's Word (Psa 119:11, II Tim 2:15). Meditation isn't emptying your mind but focusing on God and His Word

God used a donkey to see in the supernatural - seeing the angel of the Lord (Num 22)

God can use our physical senses for spiritual purposes such as -
-Isaiah 6 Ezekiel saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple." He heard the seraphims cry "Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.:" "...the house was filled with smoke."
-Peter saw, heard, and felt an angel. Acts 12:7
-In I Kings 19:7, Elijah saw and ate the food (food usually has a smell).
-Ezekiel wrote, "So I ate it, and it tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth" (Ezek. 3:1-3).
-John received a scroll from an angel. He wrote, "It tasted as sweet as honey in my mouth, but when I had eaten it, my stomach turned sour" (Rev. 10:8-10).
Also, from Mark 8 Jesus "After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." v25 Jesus had asks in v 18 "Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?" Jesus healed his eyes spiritually and physically.

Discernment is important and something most believe they have which is good but discerning of spirits is different. It is from His Spirit. (It's not a dishonoring, criticizing, judging). Avoid the fear of man but maintain the fear of the Lord. Remain teachable.

"Yet He sent prophets to them to bring them back to the Lord;..." II Chron 24:19

"...but the one who prophesies builds up the church." I Cor 14:4

"Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge." "And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets." The words and spirits are judged by other prophets. ( I Cor 14:29, 32) and others (I John 4:1).

"But if they be prophets, and if the word of the Lord be with them, let them now make intercession to the Lord of hosts..." Jer 27:18 Intercessors included Huldah, a woman (II Kings 22 and II Chron 34)

Some think everything supernatural is ungodly while others think the supernatural is all Godly. Both are in error.
"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Rev 19:20
The showdown will be a one of power and it's essential to know the true Source and His purpose no matter what method of communicating He chooses.

Again has anyone noticed changes recently in what you're seeing?

 

[ARBITER01]

I'm sorry I asked the question in this, your thread, about the use of the word seer.
I so didn't mean to take the thread off topic by doing so.
(Was just seeking clarification of the verse that Arbiter had posted.)
But I know you didn't mean for this to turn into a teaching thread, about prophets and seers.
My apologies, sister.

I wouldn't apologize.

Sometimes we learn a lot about where people are at spiritually in these threads.

 

[mourningdove~]

Again has anyone noticed changes recently in what you're seeing?

Maybe the first question I would ask is: ...
"Do we have a prophet or seer type here?"

(I kind of think we do not. I know I surely am not amongst them. lol)

Then, the question I would like to ask you is ...
About 'what' specifically are you seeking more information?
(Is there something specific?)

 

[ARBITER01]

Maybe the first question I would ask is: ...
"Do we have a prophet or seer type here?"

That's a very good question to ask.

From all my time here, and all the interaction with people over the years, and from all that I've seen coming from the body of Christ in the past and currently,..... we absolutely don't.

But what if we did? Would that person be automatically privy to GOD's will? Not necessarily,.... and most likely not.

GOD has utilized Prophets/Prophetesses many ways in the past. He had His writers of scripture, He had His workers of miracles, He had those whose revelation gifts operated the most, He had his healers (Jesus), it all depends on the anointing that GOD gives the person that He raises up. GOD has to make that person first into what He desires, and it certainly takes longer than 2 weeks.

But no,... GOD has not pointed out anyone who He is working through in power,.... .and we would know if there was one.

 

[Richard T]

I saw it on a book a few years ago and didn't understand it. I knew what they meant but it felt like a fancy way of saying something else which @ARBITER01 hinted at.

Beyond the above there's the realities of revealing what the Lord imparts. Is it for us alone or others? All ministry isn't overt and that isn't discussed enough.

~bella

From what I have heard some of the newer teachers of prophecy, mostly under those that are loosely associated within the New Apostolic reformation, seem to see different roles and break prophets and apostles into different schemes. An example of from their teaching on apostles is that they have some whose role is in the marketplace (a business focus) For prophets then they suggest that certain ones have "seer' functions. Why these roles would change for contemporary church seems to be a good question to me. I wish them well though.

 

[mourningdove~]

Wondering if you as a believer are being used as a seer? (God just uses this as a major way of communicating with some). Have there been recent changes in what you're seeing?

@tturt

You might like this, this video by Jonathan Cahn.

In it, Cahn explains "The prophetic mystery behind the Olympian blasphemy and the stunning revelation of the gods, the last days, and what lies ahead."

What we are seeing is the return of the gods ... paganism.
Cahn explains, and how he believes we, as Christians, should respond.

... It's powerful stuff.

 

[tturt]

Thanks! Will definitely check it out.

 

[tturt]

Did see the headline about The Last Supper. Rabbi Cahn's continued research is fascinating and compelling yet troubling.. Concern for family, friends, neighbors.

God's judgment isn't a common message. Rabbi sounds the alarm again.

Thankfully The Lord continues to give opportunities to turn to Him.