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Antichrist getting control of Israel??

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[FONT=Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak told the Egyptian government the Jewish state is willing to forfeit control over the Temple Mount - Judaism's holiest site - to the management of Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority, according to an Arab media report.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The Egyptian Al Massrioun daily reported last weekend Barak informed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and the Jordanian government Israel is willing to hand them joint control over the Temple Mount.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times,Serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, Serif]The report follows a WND exclusive article last week stating Palestinian negotiators drafting an agreement behind the scenes with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office made clear they will not accept any final peace deal with Israel unless the Jewish state forfeits the Temple Mount.[/FONT][/FONT]

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The Anti-Christ fullfills a number of prophecies includeing the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple and One World Government... How does allowing Muslims control over the temple mount make these prophecies come true?

That is if you believe in these things, I happen not a pre-milleniumianist so I dont believe them as interesting as they may be.
 
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The Anti-Christ fullfills a number of prophecies includeing the rebuilding of the Jewish Temple and One World Government... How does allowing Muslims control over the temple mount make these prophecies come true?

That is if you believe in these things, I happen not a pre-milleniumianist so I dont believe them as interesting as they may be.


Do you know why there are stars of David inside the dome of the Rock??

It was originally built for the Jews and converted to a mosque later.

So if it sits where The Temple is to be rebuilt. It is already been rebuilt. If thats the case then the Abomination that causes desolation may have already entered it. ( just abnother possible scenario )
 
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Holy forfeit! Israel willing to give up Temple Mount
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Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak told the Egyptian government the Jewish state is willing to forfeit control over the Temple Mount - Judaism's holiest site - to the management of Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority, according to an Arab media report.
The Egyptian Al Massrioun daily reported last weekend Barak informed Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and the Jordanian government Israel is willing to hand them joint control over the Temple Mount.
The report follows a WND exclusive article last week stating Palestinian negotiators drafting an agreement behind the scenes with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office made clear they will not accept any final peace deal with Israel unless the Jewish state forfeits the Temple Mount.


Well, that is a step in the right direction, especially after Sharon and his dealings with the Temple Mount. . . . .. it's atually quite encouraging actually.

no Carey, this has nothing to do with any antichrist.


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AntiChrist has had control over it since the apostacy of Solomon.
Carey,
what you & TLF fail to realize is that both sides are being played against the middle, and have been for a long time. Check out Barry Chamish on YouTube.

No here are the facts



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SUICIDE MAKES HEADLINES
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Media reports of Arab-Jewish conflicts make front page of nearly all local newspaper around the world. The headlines,such as, "Suicide bomber kills 17 Israelis, Israel retaliates with deadly force." In this Israel Arab conflict for more than 3,000 years this insane horror has left hundreds of thousands dead, and thousands more ready to carry on the mission of the martyrs hell
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What underlying doctrines causing this belief system to get salvation is only achieved through a suicide mission? The reasons for so many years of evil from the Arabs against the Jews are no more complicated then a personal, family-squabble over dad's inheritance.
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ABRAHAM'S TWO SONS 4000 years ago
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bbitterness from this Israel Arab conflict goes back neary 4000 years to 1900 BC and is a fight between the descendants of Abraham's two sons, Ishmael and Isaac; Ishmael, the father of the Arab people, and Isaac, the father of the Jewish people, The problem stems from Abraham's wife, Sarai, being frustrated with her inability to have a child and impatient with God's plans, asked Abraham to give her a child through their Egyptian maid "Hagar".[/FONT]
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"Now Sarai, Abrams wife, had borne him no children. But she had an Egyptian maidservant named Hagar so she said to Abram, "The Lord has kept me from having children. Go, sleep with my maid servant; perhaps I can build a family through her." (Genesis 16:1-2)
[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]THE EGYPTIAN MAID SERVANT HAS A SON TO ABRAHAM
this link is an interesting report on all events. <http://www.conceptwizard.com/nutoo/nutshell3.html>
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Hagar, the servant, submitted to being used this way. But her position in the family circle and having the birth of the first born to the father of the house resulted in her having strong feelings of superiority toward Sarah who was the number one main wife of Abraham. Into this tense atmosphere, Ishmael was born.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]For 13 years Abraham believed Ishmael's birth had fulfilled God's promise. He was surprised when God told him that the promised child would be Abraham and Sarah's very own and not that of Hagar's the servant girl. This is what the Bible says:- [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[SIZE=-7]"And I will bless her, and indeed I will give you a son by her. Then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall come from her." Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, "Will a child be born to a man 100 years old? And will Sarah, who is 90 years old, bear a child?" And Abraham said to God, Oh that Ishmael might live before Thee (meaning he was first born)! But God said, "No, but Sarah your wife shall bear you a son and you shall call his name Isaac; and I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him." (Genesis 17:16-19
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ISHMAEL's (original proginator of the Arabs) BIRTHRITE REJECTED BY GOD[/FONT]


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Can you imagine living in this Israel Arab conflict that never ends - Have you ever wondered what it would feel like to be born into the wrong family? Sarah's pregnancy and Isaac's birth must have had a devastating impact on Ishmael. Until then, he had been treated as a son and an heir, but this late arrival made his future uncertain. The Bible does not record about how Ishmael viewed life, but that question must have haunted him many times. His life, his name, and his position were bound up in a conflict between two jealous women. Sarah the actual wife of Abraham, impatient with God's timetable, had taken matters into her own hands, deciding to have a child through another woman, who was just a servant to the family.
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THE EGYPTIAN MAID SERVANT IS ASKED TO LEAVE THE HOUSE
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During Isaacs weaning celebration and festival activities, Sarah witnessed Ishmael teasing his half-brother and pleaded with Abraham to resolve the dispute - As a result, Hagar and Ishmael were permanently expelled from Abraham's family circle.
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"Therefore she said to Abraham, 'Drive out this maid and her son, for the son of this maid shall not be an heir with my son Isaac.' And the matter distressed Abraham greatly because of his son. But God said to Abraham, "Do not be distressed because of the lad and your maid; whatever Sarah tells you, listen to her, for through Isaac your descendants shall be named." (Genesis 21:10-13)
[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ISHMAEL (Father of the Arabs) GETS A BLESSING FROM GOD, but NOT the land of Israel.[/FONT]


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]God did not just turn His back on Ishmael, Rather - He promised great blessings to him: The Bible says - [/FONT]
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[SIZE=-7]"And as for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold I will bless him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall become the father of twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation." (Genesis 17:20) But in His infinite wisdom, God also saw the people Ishmael's descendants would become:
"He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and every ones hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all their brothers." (Genesis 16:12)
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"His descendants settled in the area from Havilah to Shur, near the border of Egypt, as you go toward Asshur. And they lived in hostility toward all their brothers." (Genesis 25:18)Gods word repeated in Genesis 17:20, 16:12, and 25:18 has certainly been fulfilled.
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THE LAND IS BEQUETHED BY YAHWEH GOD to ISAAC NOT ISHMAEL. But this does not stop the Israel Arab conflict
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Today, Abraham's land, having been bequeathed to Isaac by way of a covenant with God, is still at the center of the battle. Up to this point in history, the first born, in this case Ishmael, received their fathers covenant. However, as clearly outlined above, God chose to establish this covenant through Isaac - Abraham's second born and the first born to Sarah.
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A SECOND FIRSTBORN (Esau) IS REJECTED BY YAHWEH, The land was bequethed by a Covenant from Yahweh to Jacob. (The father of Israel)
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God told Jacob,
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"For all the land...to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever" (Genesis 13:15)
"...all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession" (Genesis 17:8)Twelve times Yahweh calls Himself "the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob," declaring,
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"this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial to all generations" (Exodus 3:15)More than 200 times in the Tenach, Yahweh is called "the God of Israel."
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QUR'AN AGREES WITH THE BIBLE
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Both the Bible and Qur'an (Koran) agree that 4,000 years ago God gave the 'Promised Land' to Abraham and his descendants. Yet, to this day the Arab peoples refuse to recognize that through Abraham God established His covenant and agreement with Isaac and because Ishmael was the first son, they feel the land rightfully belongs to them. For this is the very reason alone why the Arabs have such an expressed hatred towards the Jews.
Domiciled in Canaan
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In this Israel Arab conflict Muslims claim, as have many others who hate God, that the Bible was corrupted by later revisions (please see How can anyone trust the Bible today when it has been translated so many times?). However, the Bible's original manuscripts at Qumran, shows historical and prophetic accuracy, and original manuscripts that have never been altered over millenia . However, there's litteraly hundreds of verses with reference to the same covenent made by Yahweh God. The original records from the manuscripts all harmonise and testify to the facts as related in this document.
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The Qur'an (Koran) itself supports what the Bible says concerning Israel's claim to the Promised Land:
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[SIZE=-7]"We made a covenant of old with the Children of Israel" (Surah 5:70);
"We brought the children of Israel across the sea, and Pharaoh with his hosts pursued them..." (10:91). "...
"ut we drowned him and those with him all together. And we said unto the Children of Israel...dwell in the land hereafter...we shall bring you...out of various nations" (17:103, 104);
"[W]e delivered the children of Israel... from Pharaoh....We chose them, purposely, above all creatures" (44:30-32);
"favored them above all peoples" (45:16);
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[SIZE=-7]"Remember Allah's favor to you...He...gave you what he gave no other of his creatures. O my people, go into the Holy Land which Allah hath ordained for you" (95:20, 21);The territory God gave to Abraham and to his descendants was not "Palestine," but Canaan
"Into the land of Canaan they came" (Genesis 12:5, 6)
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There were no "Palestinians" from whom those who take that name today claim to be descended
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"the Canaanite and Perizzite dwelled then in the land" (Genesis 13:7) History records -
Thirty-seven years after Ismael's birth, at the age of 127, Sarah died. Abraham was still living in Hebron, having been there more than 70 years. To bury Sarah, he bought the cave of Machpelah from Ephron the Hittite (Genesis 23:1-20).
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Thirty-eight years later, at the age of 175, Abraham died. Isaac and Ishmael buried him in Machpelah next to Sarah. Isaac lived in Hebron 110 more years. Isaac, Rebekah, Jacob, and Leah were also buried in the cave of Machpelah.
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Abraham had entered Canaan approx 400 years after the flood and approx 300 years after the Tower of Babel was built by Nimrod. It was sparsely settled, the land was his for the taking, and he, Isaac, Jacob, and their families, lived there more than 300 years before temporarily moving to Egypt to escape a famine.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ISRAEL IS IN EGYPT FOR 400 YEARS
For 400 years they were slaves to the Egyptians, just as God had said, However it says in the Bible-- the Canaanites became so wicked that Yahweh God was forced to destroy them. God used Israel for that task, giving them Canaan as an everlasting heritage (Genesis 15:13-16), as He had promised.
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God referred to Isaac as Abraham's "only son" (Genesis 22:2). Thus Ishmael was not buried in Machpelah, but where he had settled far away.
"died in the presence of all his brethren" (Genesis 25:17, 18).
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You can prove it's a one sided argument concerning the Israel Arab Conflict as There is no records to prove that any Arab or Muslim was ever buried in Machpelah.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]check this link -<http://www.conceptwizard.com/nutoo/nutshell3.html>[/FONT]


Here is a great link. http://www.lastdaysreporter.com/last_days_index.html
 
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