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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 77550456" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>What I think people don't realize is that whether its Hamas or the PA they don't have a good history of democracy and freedom. The Palestinians were given many chances to create a nation and they were incapable of creating one without it ending up radicalized like most other Muslim nations. </p><p></p><p>Unless the Palestinians and Muslims for that matter cannot allow democracy anf freedom, the same principles those supporting the Palestinians are crying out for, unless they can show they are willing to live this way then peace is not going to happen. </p><p></p><p>But that would mean elections and allowing anyone including Isrealis to run as representatives. Isreal allows Palestinians to hold office. So should the Palestinians including their representatives Hamas and the PA.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise just calling for a two state solution is going to be unreal even more dangerous than now because it will allow for an even bigger state to be radicalized creating a much bigger problem 10 or 20 years down the track. </p><p></p><p>In reality the Isreal and Palestinian and Hamas situation is a reflection of the same radical ideology that attacked the West before Covid. So we are seeing a repeat of the clash between to world ideologies which perhaps is coming to a head with the current situation in Gaza. Iran has been involved from the start, before all this happened and there are groups in other Muslim nations like in Lebenon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen with the Houthi attacks on any western ships. </p><p></p><p>So this is all just a continuation of radical Islam rasing its ugly head threatening freedoms and democracy after they went quite during Covid and we all remember and were fearful of how evil they were back then. </p><p></p><p>Thats why I can't understand how people are attacking Isreal and the west as colonialist and somehow commiting genocide. The west is not perfect but one thing is for sure it represents our best chance at creating a relatively free and peaceful society. </p><p></p><p>It will not be until the Palestinians but especially their representatives like Hamas and the PA who are allowed to get into power because they don't have democracy in the first place which we know ends up becoming a dictatorship. Which would happen again in any new Palestinian state unless Hamas is completely removed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 77550456, member: 342064"] What I think people don't realize is that whether its Hamas or the PA they don't have a good history of democracy and freedom. The Palestinians were given many chances to create a nation and they were incapable of creating one without it ending up radicalized like most other Muslim nations. Unless the Palestinians and Muslims for that matter cannot allow democracy anf freedom, the same principles those supporting the Palestinians are crying out for, unless they can show they are willing to live this way then peace is not going to happen. But that would mean elections and allowing anyone including Isrealis to run as representatives. Isreal allows Palestinians to hold office. So should the Palestinians including their representatives Hamas and the PA. Otherwise just calling for a two state solution is going to be unreal even more dangerous than now because it will allow for an even bigger state to be radicalized creating a much bigger problem 10 or 20 years down the track. In reality the Isreal and Palestinian and Hamas situation is a reflection of the same radical ideology that attacked the West before Covid. So we are seeing a repeat of the clash between to world ideologies which perhaps is coming to a head with the current situation in Gaza. Iran has been involved from the start, before all this happened and there are groups in other Muslim nations like in Lebenon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen with the Houthi attacks on any western ships. So this is all just a continuation of radical Islam rasing its ugly head threatening freedoms and democracy after they went quite during Covid and we all remember and were fearful of how evil they were back then. Thats why I can't understand how people are attacking Isreal and the west as colonialist and somehow commiting genocide. The west is not perfect but one thing is for sure it represents our best chance at creating a relatively free and peaceful society. It will not be until the Palestinians but especially their representatives like Hamas and the PA who are allowed to get into power because they don't have democracy in the first place which we know ends up becoming a dictatorship. Which would happen again in any new Palestinian state unless Hamas is completely removed. [/QUOTE]
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