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<blockquote data-quote="Verv" data-source="post: 77550133" data-attributes="member: 108215"><p>To me your question actually becomes <em>how can there be peace when the foundation of Israel is violent colonial occupation</em>. </p><p></p><p>Because that is what it is: a group of mostly Europeans showed up and colonized Palestine just as the British were in the process of decolonizing the Middle East from Ottoman and European occupation. </p><p></p><p>The Palestinians lost the huge majority of their land, again, through decisions far beyond their control. All the most choice land went to the Israelis, and an ever receding amount of land is what they're left with. The Israelis continue to encroach from all sides while also imposing embargoes and sanctions on them that make it impossible to create a thriving economy. The Israelis have not <em>even allowed for there to be an official Palestinian state</em>, but instead run Israel as an apartheid state. </p><p></p><p>It was actually Nelson Mandela who stated that violence is inevitable -- here is Mandela on the topic:</p><p></p><p><em>"Choose peace rather than confrontation. Except in cases where we cannot get, where we cannot proceed, or we cannot move forward. Then if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence."</em></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nelson-mandela-30-years-palestine" target="_blank">Middle East Eye</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Verv, post: 77550133, member: 108215"] To me your question actually becomes [I]how can there be peace when the foundation of Israel is violent colonial occupation[/I]. Because that is what it is: a group of mostly Europeans showed up and colonized Palestine just as the British were in the process of decolonizing the Middle East from Ottoman and European occupation. The Palestinians lost the huge majority of their land, again, through decisions far beyond their control. All the most choice land went to the Israelis, and an ever receding amount of land is what they're left with. The Israelis continue to encroach from all sides while also imposing embargoes and sanctions on them that make it impossible to create a thriving economy. The Israelis have not [I]even allowed for there to be an official Palestinian state[/I], but instead run Israel as an apartheid state. It was actually Nelson Mandela who stated that violence is inevitable -- here is Mandela on the topic: [I]"Choose peace rather than confrontation. Except in cases where we cannot get, where we cannot proceed, or we cannot move forward. Then if the only alternative is violence, we will use violence."[/I] [URL='https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/nelson-mandela-30-years-palestine']Middle East Eye[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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