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"Anti-church" - the sure way into doom
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<blockquote data-quote="quatona" data-source="post: 71604819" data-attributes="member: 111204"><p>In my experience this has more to do with the American idea of "free speech" (that´s totally different from the one we have in Germany - generally speaking) than with anything else. I have been on American music and politics forums that were pretty much ruleless and unmoderated.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When it´s about motives of others, I´d recommend you to ask them rather than making guesses (particularly when the guesses you make are unfavourable and/or confirm your prejudices).</p><p></p><p>There are a lot of possible other reasons for allowing for free expression and choice of words that make at least as much or even more sense. This one, however, seems to be the most convenient one for you.</p><p></p><p>Well, when they are reasonable, they probably will show up in other world views as well.</p><p></p><p>I suspect he was right (just like abolishing free gun ownership in America would probably result in a lot of violence, while other countries have been and are prospering without it quite fine). So I think Voltaire made a point about <strong>too sudden and radical changes </strong>(which would be a pretty irrelevant point in the question at hand).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, it isn´t. It´s about not holding a belief in Gods.</p><p>You are confusing yourself when you make wild guesses about others´ intentions and motives, and then point out that motive and actions aren´t reconcilable. The more self-suggesting conclusion would be: You have guessed wrongly.</p><p></p><p>Because there are plenty of non-religious reasons to be against murder, and because not believing in a God doesn´t mean you are in principal opposition to each and everything that may be said in church.</p><p></p><p>You better not sell people who disagree with you short that way, or you will end up confused.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quatona, post: 71604819, member: 111204"] In my experience this has more to do with the American idea of "free speech" (that´s totally different from the one we have in Germany - generally speaking) than with anything else. I have been on American music and politics forums that were pretty much ruleless and unmoderated. When it´s about motives of others, I´d recommend you to ask them rather than making guesses (particularly when the guesses you make are unfavourable and/or confirm your prejudices). There are a lot of possible other reasons for allowing for free expression and choice of words that make at least as much or even more sense. This one, however, seems to be the most convenient one for you. Well, when they are reasonable, they probably will show up in other world views as well. I suspect he was right (just like abolishing free gun ownership in America would probably result in a lot of violence, while other countries have been and are prospering without it quite fine). So I think Voltaire made a point about [B]too sudden and radical changes [/B](which would be a pretty irrelevant point in the question at hand). Well, it isn´t. It´s about not holding a belief in Gods. You are confusing yourself when you make wild guesses about others´ intentions and motives, and then point out that motive and actions aren´t reconcilable. The more self-suggesting conclusion would be: You have guessed wrongly. Because there are plenty of non-religious reasons to be against murder, and because not believing in a God doesn´t mean you are in principal opposition to each and everything that may be said in church. You better not sell people who disagree with you short that way, or you will end up confused. [/QUOTE]
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