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ThomasAbel70

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This forum is for Anti-Catholics.
All are welcome however.
While most forums don't allow for unmoderated debating,
we have a "no ban" policy for one sharing their beliefs.

Link below as signature.

I really hope to get some Anti-Catholics over there.

I could use the practice.

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I really hope to get some Anti-Catholics over there.
I could use the practice.

A good trick and worthy of a believer in anti-Christ. :) Your link has nothing to do with Jesus but is blasphemy. Worship as you will but images of God are but a fleeting sin. Kiss Him before you sleep or you might wake up in hell.

How's that for a start Tom boy? :) (If anyone asks give.)

1 Cor 14:9 ...Unless you speak intelligible words with your tongue, how will anyone know what you are saying? You will just be speaking into the air.

What's with the latin, unscriptural from the start unscriptural to the end Ig? (I can't play utube stuff as my computer crashes.)


john for burning.
 
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Tomas.
....Isn't the point here in the ecuminical realm of Oz, that we make peace quickly, let not the sun go down on our anger, not bite and devour one another, get along with He we see, that we might serve HE who we do not see....

In the ecuminical realm yes. In the ecuminical realm we must be along-side the snake worshippers of Borneo. :cool:

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This forum is for Anti-Catholics.
All are welcome however.
While most forums don't allow for unmoderated debating,
we have a "no ban" policy for one sharing their beliefs.

Link below as signature.

I really hope to get some Anti-Catholics over there.

I could use the practice.

:liturgy:
This is a lie, I was banned from this site because Thomas, aka cepha, was teaching salvation outside of Jesus, and I told him that was heresy, yet over and over again he defended his heresy and over and over again I called him out on it, and he finally banned me, so that he could teach his heresy unquestioned, and so he could deceive others.
 
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This forum is for Anti-Catholics.
All are welcome however.
While most forums don't allow for unmoderated debating,
we have a "no ban" policy for one sharing their beliefs.

Link below as signature.

I really hope to get some Anti-Catholics over there.

I could use the practice.

:liturgy:


I prefer the term anti-Catholicism. The term anti-Catholic is designed to make us feel defensive and to feel the need to defend ourselves for disagreeing with the Catholic religion and it's teachings. I'm not against individual Catholics, I'm against the Catholic religion.
 
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This forum is for Anti-Catholics.
All are welcome however.
While most forums don't allow for unmoderated debating,
we have a "no ban" policy for one sharing their beliefs.

Link below as signature.

I really hope to get some Anti-Catholics over there.

I could use the practice.

:liturgy:

This is a lie, I was banned from this site because Thomas, aka cepha, was teaching salvation outside of Jesus, and I told him that was heresy, yet over and over again he defended his heresy and over and over again I called him out on it, and he finally banned me, so that he could teach his heresy unquestioned, and so he could deceive others.
Want to see some manure check out that site the administrater on there is full of it and he will ban you if you stand up against all the false teaching he is teaching in there.
 
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I really hope to get some Anti-Catholics over there.

I could use the practice.

:liturgy:

am I safe in assuming you're a catholic?

if so, this is the perfect place for me to ask a question;

I was reading in a book defending catholic doctrines that the word translated "until" (where Joseph didn't know Mary until Jesus was born) didn't necessarily mean that it stopped being true at that point,

but the book didn't give any examples to show this.

if you are a catholic, could you look into this for me, because the only cases I can see of using it where it could continue would be places like where stuff continued "to this day" (i.e. was still true at the time of writing)
 
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am I safe in assuming you're a catholic?

if so, this is the perfect place for me to ask a question;

I was reading in a book defending catholic doctrines that the word translated "until" (where Joseph didn't know Mary until Jesus was born) didn't necessarily mean that it stopped being true at that point,

but the book didn't give any examples to show this.

if you are a catholic, could you look into this for me, because the only cases I can see of using it where it could continue would be places like where stuff continued "to this day" (i.e. was still true at the time of writing)

Hello,

The phrase "not until" does not mean "did not...until after." The Greek word "Heos" references the past, never the future. Instead, "not until" she bore a son means "not up to the point that" she bore a son. This confirms that Mary was a virgin when she bore Jesus. Protestants use this text to deny the Ever-Virginity of the Theotokos, but a closer look will prove that it doesn't contradict this teaching, but this is a off-topic anyway.

Examples:

Matt. 28:29 - I am with you "until the end of the world." This does not mean Jesus is not with us after the end of the world.
Luke 1:80 - John was in the desert "up to the point of his manifestation to Israel." Not John "was in the desert until after" his manifestation.
Luke 2:37 - Anna was a widow "up to the point that" she was eighty-four year old. She was not a widow after eighty-four years old.

Furthermore, if we read Deuteronomy 34:6, 2 Samuel 6:23, Psalm 72:7 and 110:1 (as interpreted by Jesus in Matthew 22:42–46), Matthew 11:23, Romans 8:22, and 1 Timothy 4:13, to reference just a few examples, we will see that in none of these passages does the word "until" indicate a necessary change. The problem is this: In English, the word "until" indicates a change after the fact, but in the ancient languages of the Bible this is simply not the case. But for the sake of the argument, let's say it did, then apparently we would have to believe that Jesus will at some point stop sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that on some unknown date in the future He intends to abandon the Church!

That is why is important for one not to rely solely on there English translation, since the Holy Bible was not written in the English language. When it comes to "until" in regards to St. Matthew 1:25, one need to see how this word is used in other places in Scriptures (and see how it is used in the original language of the Holy Bible), not what one want it to mean because one have some preconceived idealistic views.

In IC.XC,
Ramon
 
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This is a lie, I was banned from this site because Thomas, aka cepha, was teaching salvation outside of Jesus, and I told him that was heresy, yet over and over again he defended his heresy and over and over again I called him out on it, and he finally banned me, so that he could teach his heresy unquestioned, and so he could deceive others.

When was this? Point me to the discussion in his site wherein you two had a debate. I know of only two that was banned, but it wasn't because there beliefs conflicted with cepha views. The ones who got banned was utterly disrespectful to those who didn't agree with them. It was getting out of hand. Even the Protestants that was on the site agree that there behavior towards "Roman Catholics" was unacceptable. Even the one who invited them said, "My friends are being disrespected on this board". I saw how these posters were behaving and I for one voted to ban them [perhaps you were one them?]. So you got it the other way around. That information is on the site. But one thing is for sure: Cepha doesn't ban people just because they disagree with some elements of Catholicism. Anyone who said otherwise is a liar. There are a few Protestants active on the site. The mod himself received hate mails and phone calls by those who were banned.
And they called themselves "Christians".

So contrary to onwingsaseagles statements, all are welcome to his site. In fact, we need more people to join, so please if anyone is interested please go to Thomas [Cepha] website! The only rule the Mod enforce is that everyone need to respect each other, even in debates.
 
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Luke 1:80 - John was in the desert "up to the point of his manifestation to Israel." Not John "was in the desert until after" his manifestation.
Luke 2:37 - Anna was a widow "up to the point that" she was eighty-four year old. She was not a widow after eighty-four years old.
thank you for that answer, I still don't see any reason for Matthew to add until she brought forth Jesus, rather than until the day he died, but I no longer see it as proof.
 
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since I got such a thoughtful and respectful answer, I would like to bring up my biggest rift with the Catholic Church; grace vs works

my understanding is that Catholics believe you are initially saved by grace, but you can lose your salvation.
this means to me that good works (keeping rather than breaking God's law) is essential for salvation
my understanding is that we are saved UNTO good works (God has planned good works for us to do after we are saved) but our failure to do them results in temporal punishment here on earth as God disciplines us as sons but no loss of salvation because He will continue the work He has started in us until the day of Christ

what is your response? am I misunderstanding your doctrine?
 
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