Answer me these questions three.....

[f16fan12]

Hmmm....so God was Jesus on earth: both fully human and fully divine?

Is Mary the mother of God? Yes yes, i know about the "heresies" and the councils which attempted to solve them. They succeded in making it more confusing.

Oh, and if Mary was a virgin and conceived Jesus without the "help" of a man, how can there be a whole chapter of lineage of Jesus, dating him back to who? Abraham? Isaac? Certainly Mary was not related....

 

[Lifesaver]

Read Matthew 1.
The genealogy is there, and a very explicit clarification of whether Mary had or not the "help" of a man.

 

[Bulldog]

Hmmm....so God was Jesus on earth: both fully human and fully divine?

Yes.

Is Mary the mother of God?

I find the reasoning behind it circular. Mary was the mother of the humanly incarnation of Jesus, it's odd to say she is the mother of God and yet was created by God.

Certainly Mary was not related....

What do you mean?

 

[TrueQ]

Yes! Fully human and fully divine is the very essence of modern satanism. It's we mortals who have all the real power in the world, we crafted gods in our image, made towering statues for them and chiselled away at them until the features were just perfect. We wrote volumes of stories about the gods until we had a whole mythology built up. Then we breathed the breath of life into our statues and stories and created our gods, not the other way around. So yes, Mary birthed Jesus, birthed him in every sense of the word, through her power, and not Jehovah's, she brought a new little god into the world. Humans created god and give him power over the Earth, not the other way around.

My answer to the third question is a little less esoteric. I always interpreted that Mary (Or Joseph) was related to Abraham and so on, thus, her son would be as well.

 

[audramray]

Look at both of the genealogies listed. One is Joseph's and one is Mary's. Look at the differences.

 

[Blackguard_]

Hmmm....so God was Jesus on earth: both fully human and fully divine?

He was God with a human body, his human nature was either just his physical body, or it was dissolved into his God nature, Man being finite and God infinite. I'm an Apollinarianist or Monophysite,(haven't quite sorted it out yet) hence my "Heretic" Faith icon.

Is Mary the mother of God? Yes yes, i know about the "heresies" and the councils which attempted to solve them. They succeded in making it more confusing.

Mary is the mother of Jesus's physical body. and only in the sense that she carried the baby in her womb. I don't believe Jesus had mary's genes or anything, and she isn't the mother of God, she was just the carrier of the body God was made incarnate in.

Oh, and if Mary was a virgin and conceived Jesus without the "help" of a man, how can there be a whole chapter of lineage of Jesus, dating him back to who? Abraham? Isaac? Certainly Mary was not related....

I believe the lineage back to David was traced through Joseph, who had nothing to do with Jesus's birth. Jesus simply emerged from the womb of the wife of a descendent of David in order to fullfil a prophecy about the line of David reigning forever, and Jesus filled it on a technicality. The whole lineage thing is a technicality, as jesus is not related to any human, but he was technically the son of a descendent of David, and so he is technically a descendent of David.

 

[AdJesumPerMariam]

Yes! Fully human and fully divine is the very essence of modern satanism. It's we mortals who have all the real power in the world, we crafted gods in our image, made towering statues for them and chiselled away at them until the features were just perfect. We wrote volumes of stories about the gods until we had a whole mythology built up. Then we breathed the breath of life into our statues and stories and created our gods, not the other way around. So yes, Mary birthed Jesus, birthed him in every sense of the word, through her power, and not Jehovah's, she brought a new little god into the world. Humans created god and give him power over the Earth, not the other way around.

If this were true, why do we not have control over our own bodies? And, how did humans get here to begin with?
If that were true, would there be less disease, murders, heartbreak?

Love-n-Blessings
dee

 

[12volt_man]

Hmmm....so God was Jesus on earth: both fully human and fully divine?

Is Mary the mother of God?

No.

Oh, and if Mary was a virgin and conceived Jesus without the "help" of a man, how can there be a whole chapter of lineage of Jesus, dating him back to who? Abraham? Isaac? Certainly Mary was not related....

See previous answers.

 

[kimber1]

yes 100% human and 100% divine
Mary=mother of Jesus Jesus=God Mary=mother of God

 

[Radio-Free Gnosis]

Oh, boy.

Jesus=God on Earth?
Not quite, he just became a vessel for the Logos.

Mary=Mother of God?
Nope. The church just needed an undercover goddess, and didn't want to give the title to the Magdalene, who was more deserving.

Virgin birth?
Doubtful. Since the Logos didn't enter into Jesus until his baptism, the events surrounding his birth are irrelevant.


And those, among others, are the reasons for my heretic icon.

 

[kimber1]

how exactly was Mary of Magdalene more deserving?



doubtful? then what do you make of the verses that actually say born of a virgin?

 

[Blissman]

To answer this question, you would need to answer amoung other questions,
Why would there be a need for a Virginal birth?

The answer is that man is corporeal; blood, bones, and flesh. For the Son of God to appear to man, He too, must be of blood, bones, and flesh. Jesus's father is not blood, bones, and flesh. Therefore, God (the Father), can not have sex with Mary, who is of blood, and bones, and flesh.